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'nuther bird point and chips...
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It is legal to collect Native artifacts on private land, but not on public land which are protected under the National Antiquities Act and many others.
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It is legal to collect Native artifacts on private land, but not on public land which are protected under the National Antiquities Act and many others. thanks Counselor
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been out about a dozen times on a private 1300acre corn lease, found a bucket full of brokes,unifaces,biface,blunts,hammerstones,cores, etc here's a couple of pics, I got dozens of insitues but will save some bandwidth Lost Lake, little banged up heart-breaker large Kirk Corner Notch typical day afield, from couple weeks back: Big Sandy I'll quit now..... if not, I'll be leavin outta here in headed to the dirt- Meanwhile, the meth-heads are probably pickin em up now while I work to buy their diapers and cigs
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Don't. Stop. Don't. Stop. Don't stop, don't stop...
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That last one is a beaut. Good Luck huntin' guys!!
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large tool ok, so I was hauling this sqared pounder around till, I stopped for this insitu new spot I'm visiting as of late, lots of blue chert high on a bluff tilled spot, lots of large tools, 'marrow mashers' choppers,some preforms, cores etc. Had to leave 5-6, just didn't have room in my nail pouch. Couple hours pickup very recently: and drum roll:.............. noticed this unmistakable piece other night as I was sorting thru my 3 gallon bucket of parts,pieces and general debitage: fluted base
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It is legal to collect Native artifacts on private land, but not on public land which are protected under the National Antiquities Act and many others. When you worked as a government forester, were there any loggers that wanted to pinch your off?
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I never worked for USFS. I worked one year for the BLM and decided they were the enemy. I worked for private companies, and as a private contractor. Since ignorance of the law is no excuse, I am attempting to help people understand what the law says with regard to historic and pre-historic resources. There is rarely anyone around to enforce it. It is like hunting, people are out there with their conscience and little else.
I have been in the logging business, planted trees, built log houses and run timber sales. Also timber mapping and lots of other stuff related to forestry in the lower 48 and Alaska.
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And nobody drives over 55 MPH either.....
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There is rarely anyone around to enforce it. Do you have a cape, with which to fly around at night and protect the earth? If the people that made said items wanted them, they would have taken them with em, don't ya think?
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holy crap thems are some kewl finds
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found one last wk turkey huntin.,this is a good thread
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Archaeological Resources Protection Act of 1979
16 U.S.C. 470ee,
Prohibited acts and criminal penalties
Section 6
16 U.S.C. 470 ee(a),
Unauthorized excavation, removal, damage, alternation, or defacement of archaeological resources
(a) No person may excavate, remove, damage, or otherwise alter or deface or attempt to excavate, remove, damage, or otherwise alter or deface any archaeological resource located on public lands or Indian lands unless such activity is pursuant to a permit issued under section 4 of this Act, a permit referred to in section 4(h)(2) of this Act, or the exemption contained in section 4(g)(1) of this Act.
16 U.S.C. 470ee(b),
Trafficking in archaeological resources: Federal law
(b) No person may sell, purchase, exchange, transport, receive, or offer to sell, purchase, or exchange any archaeological resource if such resource was excavated or removed from public lands or Indian lands in violation of-
(1) the prohibition contained in subsection (a) of this section, or
(2) any provision, rule, regulation, ordinance, or permit in effect under any other provision of Federal law.
16 U.S.C. 470ee(c),
Trafficking in illegal interstate or foreign commerce in archaeological resources: State or local law
(c) No person may sell, purchase, exchange, transport, receive, or offer to sell, purchase, or exchange, in interstate of foreign commerce, any archaeological resource excavated, removed, sold, purchased, exchanged, transported, or received in violation of any provision, rule, regulation, ordinance, or permit in effect under State or local law.
16 U.S.C. 470ee(d),
Penalties
(d) Any person who knowingly violates, or counsels, procures, solicits, or employs any other person to violate, any prohibition contained in subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section shall, upon conviction, be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both: Provided, however, That if the commercial or archaeological value of the archaeological resources involved and the cost of restoration and repair of such resources exceeds the sum of $500, such person shall be fined not more than $20,000 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. In the case of a second or subsequent such violation upon conviction such person shall be fined not more than $100,000, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
16 U.S.C. 470ee(e),
Effective date
(e) The prohibitions contained in this section shall take effect on October 31, 1979 [the date of the enactment of this Act].
16 U.S.C. 470ee(f),
Prospective application
(f) Nothing in subsection (b)(1) of this section shall be deemed applicable to any person with respect to any archaeological resource which was in the lawful possession of such person prior to October 31, 1979.
16 U.S.C. 470ee(g),
Removal of arrowheads located on ground surface
(g) Nothing in subsection (d) of this section shall be deemed applicable to any person with respect to the removal of arrowheads located on the surface of the ground.
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Guess I know somebody that needs to return a brick to Pompeii.
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Guess I know somebody that needs to return a brick to Pompeii. Without that archaeological evidence, they won't know that people hunted, ate meat, made tools, lived and died.
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Thanks for keeping my thread alive guys! Here are a few recent finds.
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