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Check out this site for great info and commentary on the case. Zimmerman Trial Day 2 � Analysis of State�s Witnesses Today can only be characterized as an utter debacle for the prosecution in Florida v. Zimmerman. Besides the testimony of a couple of highly professional law enforcement witnesses, the testimony of the the other State witnesses ranged from signing George Zimmerman�s praises, to acknowledging the utility of following a suspicious person from a distance, to being utterly discredited by razor sharp cross-examination of the defense.
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I've been watching a good bit of the trial. I'm just hoping the jury can decide on the facts, not the emotion or the medias account of the story. This should have never even been to trial.
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I've been watching a good bit of the trial. I'm just hoping the jury can decide on the facts, not the emotion or the medias account of the story. This should have never even been to trial. true
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Andrew Branca | June 26, 2013 at 1:26 am
I don�t claim to be �unbiased�. I am very much biased against those who would do harm to innocents. I spent the bulk of my firearms instruction years teaching, for free, women how to protect themselves against violent ex-partners. Are the women I trained and the men I trained them to defend against morally equivalent?
Of course not.
I DO however, claim to be fair. I go where the evidence leads me. In this case, the overwhelming majority�really, ALL�the evidence points to Zimmerman being a good neighbor exercising his Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, who was attacked by a foolish and brutally violent young man who thought he could use deadly force against an innocent with impunity, and whose attack was relentless an unceasing until a desperately-fired 115g 9mm tore open his heart.
If the State has actual evidence to the contrary, they�ve kept it well hidden through more than a year of mandatory mutual discovery.
In any case, I don�t see the the two people in that above described encounter as being any more morally equivalent than I would a rapist and his victim.
So, yes, in that sense I am biased, indeed.
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I've been watching a good bit of the trial. I'm just hoping the jury can decide on the facts, not the emotion or the medias account of the story. This should have never even been to trial. I'd like to watch it, too. What station is carrying it? Or are you watching via the internet? Either way, please fill us in on how to watch it. PS I just found a way to watch it. Here it is: Link
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Andrew Branca | June 26, 2013 at 2:30 am
You are mistaken.
If I launch a non-deadly force attack against you (e.g., simple battery), and you respond with non-deadly force, I cannot justify my use of non-deadly force as self-defense, because I was the aggressor (unless i retreat, communicate intention to retreat, etc.).
If I launch a deadly force attack against you, and you respond with deadly force, I cannot justify my use of deadly force as self defense, because I was the aggressor.
But if I launch a non-deadly attack, and you respond with DEADLY force, I am entirely entitled to use deadly force in self-defense. I may later be held accountable for my initial use of non-deadly force (e.g., prosecuted for simple battery), but I do not lose my right to save my life from your gun shot simply because I chest-bumped you.
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NBC news has a link to the feed on their front homepage, i've not found it on any TV channel yet. I was hoping to watch it on the tube, but apparently CourtTV doesn't exist anymore...
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If he is found not guilty, do you think we will see the riots like we did after the LA case in '92?
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If he is found not guilty, do you think we will see the riots like we did after the LA case in '92? I hope he is found not guilty, and that the true racist start rioting...
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If he is found not guilty, do you think we will see the riots like we did after the LA case in '92? Either way it's bad for Floridians, because if he's convicted, it means it's open season on non-blacks, and non-blacks will have essentially lost the right to defend their lives against black attackers.
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How far from this are you TRH?
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How far from this are you TRH? About 150 miles. PS When I lived on Long Island I personally attended the trial of Colin Ferguson, the Long Island Railroad mass murderer who insisted on handling his own defense. That was nuts to watch live. The mass murderer was up there cross examining the witnesses who saw him murder folks. He would ask them, for example, "Can you identify the person who committed the murders?" and they'd point to him and say, "Yeah, you."
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I hope he is found innocent but I doubt that will happen-hope I'm wrong with my feelings about it.
I just believe that this damned adminisration and the current feeling in this country is going to make George Zimmerman an 'example' jsut to keep the spearchuckers quiet and pacified! The white population owes NOTHING to the black population at this time in history if they ever did! The last slave owner died many decades ago and the last plantation basically went out of the slave business in 1865! They have had every law passed that they ever wanted and it has done them NO GOOD overall because the basic characteristic of this bunch is to "let the gub'mint do it fo' me"!
Until the American black gets rid of the hypenated racial designation and drops the "African" they'll never move ahead to achieve their full potential. I doubt if 2% of the blacks in this country could find Africa on a map or globe let alone have ever been there! It is time to assimilate and become "Americans" or the Mexicans are going to totally over-run the blacks too! And they think they have it bad NOW?
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Check out this site for great info and commentary on the case. Zimmerman Trial Day 2 � Analysis of State�s Witnesses Today can only be characterized as an utter debacle for the prosecution in Florida v. Zimmerman. Besides the testimony of a couple of highly professional law enforcement witnesses, the testimony of the the other State witnesses ranged from signing George Zimmerman�s praises, to acknowledging the utility of following a suspicious person from a distance, to being utterly discredited by razor sharp cross-examination of the defense. all of which makes the trial all the more shameful
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btw
The ladies of the jury should be shown the video of the home invasion in NJ.
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How far from this are you TRH? About 150 miles. PS When I lived on Long Island I personally attended the trial of Colin Ferguson, the Long Island Railroad mass murderer who insisted on handling his own defense. That was nuts to watch live. The mass murderer was up there cross examining the witnesses who saw him murder folks. He would ask them, for example, "Can you identify the person who committed the murders?" and they'd point to him and say, "Yeah, you." TRH -- In the Fort Hood shooting, Nidal Hassan ( the gunman and killer ) will be representing himself. This happened 3+ years ago, and will be as crazy as the Ferguson trial. Just take the SOB out back and hang him. hang him high !
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I've been watching a good bit of the trial. I'm just hoping the jury can decide on the facts, not the emotion or the medias account of the story. This should have never even been to trial. After reading some commentary about the defense dissecting prosecution witnesses, I tried to find coverage to watch but can't find it. Where can a person watch the proceedings?
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Where can a person watch the proceedings? I provided a link in a previous post in this thread.
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Headline News has it. They go to commercial about every 30 seconds though.
It's unwatchable IMO.
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