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It appears you don't fully understand the elements of proof for voluntary manslaughter. It can't be involuntary manslaughter, of course.

Wonder what Zimmerman's defense attorney was trying to accomplish by persisting with the issue about the amount of marijuana found in Trayvon's toxicology test?

I've always been led to believe that marijuana had the effect of making one docile, more laid-back, and if anything, much less prone to any aggressive, combative behavior.

and that to me Kevin answers the question posed as to whether this is the campfire gossip thread.

this trial will not only impact GZ's life by its outcome, but factually anyone that chooses to arm themselves and is mentally prepared to use said arm to defend their lives.

you're laying on your back in the rain, getting your head slammed into the concrete by some guy you've never met, he was just acting suspicious in your neighborhood that's been the target of recent break ins, when he took offense to you observing him and attacked you.


if that's manslaughter, when you're alone on the ground getting your head pounded (whether it's true or not that the deceased told you "you're going to die tonight")

then those of you that choose to go armed are well and truly [bleep].


by case law, if you're not to the point of expiring from injuries BEFORE you draw and shoot, you're guilty of manslaughter.


all the CCW laws in the world are a moot point if that is indeed the outcome of this farce


still say defense should bring in a slab of concrete and pound the head of the "expert" person that said Z's injuries were minimal into that piece of concrete and ask them to raise their hand when their injuries surpass minimal and enter into significant

and that's still different than having it done in the dark of night with no other witnesses.


what a load of horsechit this is, if he's convicted of anything.


if you can't use a gun legally to stop someone from slamming your head into concrete, you might as well throw the sumbitch away.

and that to me Kevin answers the question posed as to whether this is the campfire gossip thread.

this trial will not only impact GZ's life by its outcome, but factually anyone that chooses to arm themselves and is mentally prepared to use said arm to defend their lives.

you're laying on your back in the rain, getting your head slammed into the concrete by some guy you've never met, he was just acting suspicious in your neighborhood that's been the target of recent break ins, when he took offense to you observing him and attacked you.


if that's manslaughter, when you're alone on the ground getting your head pounded (whether it's true or not that the deceased told you "you're going to die tonight")

then those of you that choose to go armed are well and truly [bleep].


by case law, if you're not to the point of expiring from injuries BEFORE you draw and shoot, you're guilty of manslaughter.


all the CCW laws in the world are a moot point if that is indeed the outcome of this farce


still say defense should bring in a slab of concrete and pound the head of the "expert" person that said Z's injuries were minimal into that piece of concrete and ask them to raise their hand when their injuries surpass minimal and enter into significant

and that's still different than having it done in the dark of night with no other witnesses.


what a load of horsechit this is, if he's convicted of anything.


if you can't use a gun legally to stop someone from slamming your head into concrete, you might as well throw the sumbitch away.

Kevin might be referring to a conviction for imperfect self defense, which is voluntary manslaughter. Imperfect self defense is when the party claiming self defense actually started the aggressive encounter with a low level of aggression (e.g., a push), which was responded to with a level of aggression that was imminently life threatening (e.g., pulling out a knife or club, or even, upon gaining the advantage, slamming the "pusher's" head repeatedly against concrete). I see no factual basis for this in evidence, however. Seems pretty straightforwardly justified self defense to me.