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whole damn thing is a raciest driven sham.


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It's clearly a racist and politically driven prosecution but, in reality,it's somewhat more involving of folks incapable of focus and being more prone to a middle school perception of life and what one perceives it to be, depending upon how you're moving ahead in life.


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Originally Posted by Lee_Woiteshek
I'm through I betting on a sure thing. Thought OJ was going away, (the first time) thought Casey Anthony was a goner. Thought Romney would be sitting in the WH, as no one would vote for that fool again.


Don't forget Clinton getting re-elected.

That was the day I realized I am not like a LOT of Americans.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Bob, I'm still unfortunately betting on the manslaughter conviction... This continues to be a politically motivated witch hunt and with the president's weight behind it, not to mention the media, those women will vote with their hormones...


Bingo.


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This trial would never have happened if both parties involved were either black or white. They are trying to make it look like some innocent black child got wracked by a violent Hispanic guy. The judge is so ignorant and the trial a sham. She is refusing to allow Travons history of fighting, burglary, chronic Mariana use, school suspensions, unstable family life, and current intoxication during the altercation to be allowed into evidence. The prosecution is allowed to paint him as a choir boy so that Obama thinks he's his long lost son. There simply is no reasonable way a guy could have cuts on he back of his head and a broken nose unless he was attacked. Martin has no injuries except a bullet hole. This trial is an absolute sham of justice and the judge has a very questionable past. Our legal system needs an overhaul to separate it from the political influences that forced these false charges.

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Originally Posted by Kellywk
Hispanic technically just means someone is from a Spanish speaking country whatever their original ethnic background. I've had a lot of clients from Mexico included red haired ones named o'hara and Viking looking ones with German names. They come in all sizes shapes and colors down there just like they do in the us


"Hispanic" was a term made up by liberals to separate them from "white" or "black", creating another block of minority victims. As the majority are more white, than black, this also caused a huge percentage of them to be alienated (no pun intended) by white America. I doubt that the left was smart enough to do this on purpose, but they damn sure ran with it and it's working. Sorry for the hijack.


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morning Pat


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Hi Roger! Goin' fishin?


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i wish got to lay some carpet today. but plan on going next weekend, my buddy just picked up a 30ft world cat.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Kellywk
Hispanic technically just means someone is from a Spanish speaking country whatever their original ethnic background. I've had a lot of clients from Mexico included red haired ones named o'hara and Viking looking ones with German names. They come in all sizes shapes and colors down there just like they do in the us


"Hispanic" was a term made up by liberals to separate them from "white" or "black", creating another block of minority victims. As the majority are more white, than black, this also caused a huge percentage of them to be alienated (no pun intended) by white America. I doubt that the left was smart enough to do this on purpose, but they damn sure ran with it and it's working. Sorry for the hijack.


Yep. Mexicans are still "Caucasian". Just like me.

African-Americans are Negros.. not just like me.

THAT didn't suit the purposes of the radical left.

But it still suits me and all the Mexicans I know.


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I know and work with a lot of Mexicans. I have never heard a single one of them call their self white. They are brown!

And they have very little use for one of their kind trying to pass for white.

They are no more Caucasian than the Indians from which they are primarily descended.


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Mexico - the world's largest Indian reservation.


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My post in its entirety:

Yep. Mexicans are still "Caucasian". Just like me.

African-Americans are Negros.. not just like me.

THAT didn't suit the purposes of the radical left.

But it still suits me and all the Mexicans I know.

You see any reference made to Mexicans being "white" ?

Sorry, but your post just flat-out doesn't make sense AS A RESPONSE TO MINE.


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Isaac: I can not tell how you feel about the outcome of this trial by what your OP says - I am of the opinion that the trial should have ended at the end of the prosecutions case with the judge throwing the case out of court as per the defense's very valid requests!
Thats how I feel - but, P/C has overwhelmed this investigation and the subsequent prosecution and trial - over-riding common sense and normal policies and procedures.
I fear that young Mr. Zimmerman is going to be found guilty of something!
I have seen "stronger" cases dismissed by judges on numerous occassions.
My advice to you and ALL who read this: DON'T commit a P/C crime in the United States of America in this day and age.
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Originally Posted by las
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Bob, I'm still unfortunately betting on the manslaughter conviction... This continues to be a politically motivated witch hunt and with the president's weight behind it, not to mention the media, those women will vote with their hormones...


Bingo.

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Hooey. There's no more evidence for a finding of manslaughter than there is for 2nd degree murder. The defense of self defense plays all the way down the line gents,even for simple assault.

Quit getting yourselves side-tracked by the irrelevant minutiae the state might have you believing is relevant.

This judge is a joke and her day is going to come. In the meanwhile, don't let her cowardice impact upon your evaluation of the evidence or the instructions this jury will receive.


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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Isaac: I can not tell how you feel about the outcome of this trial by what your OP says - I am of the opinion that the trial should have ended at the end of the prosecutions case with the judge throwing the case out of court as per the defense's very valid requests!
Thats how I feel - but, P/C has overwhelmed this investigation and the subsequent prosecution and trial - over-riding common sense and normal policies and procedures.
I fear that young Mr. Zimmerman is going to be found guilty of something!
I have seen "stronger" cases dismissed by judges on numerous occassions.
My advice to you and ALL who read this: DON'T commit a P/C crime in the United States of America in this day and age.
Hold into the wi


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I've stated my belief as to the outcome several times;even have dinero on it with my latin super macho amigo, Jorge. You read the thread title,right? You also read Lott's analysis, right?

There are some of you selling this jury short because they're all female. Bad mistake but I understand how the machismo works in the minds of some players.

Zimm walks.

Closing arguments Wed/Thursday with the jury being out less than one full business day to render the obvious verdict.


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Can the defense do something to insure that jurors know all the applicable laws to reach a decision that's in compliance with applicable "standards" versus relying only on the judge to provide instructions to the jury?

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The Judge doesn't simply make up instructions. She has no choice as to model jury instructions and the only time her input will be needed is when either side attempts to argue for a modification of a jury instruction.

Google "Model Jury Instructions In Regards The Zimmerman Trial" and go from there.


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Thank you for your soothing effects in a turbulent time.

Your insight is appreciated!

But this case is a glimpse into a much deeper matter.
A glimpse of the beast secular-humanist-progressivism is creating.

There is no doubt the evadance of mob-mentally at work here, and how the elite puppetmasters will use it!


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Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Isaac: I can not tell how you feel about the outcome of this trial by what your OP says - I am of the opinion that the trial should have ended at the end of the prosecutions case with the judge throwing the case out of court as per the defense's very valid requests!
Thats how I feel - but, P/C has overwhelmed this investigation and the subsequent prosecution and trial - over-riding common sense and normal policies and procedures.
I fear that young Mr. Zimmerman is going to be found guilty of something!
I have seen "stronger" cases dismissed by judges on numerous occassions.
My advice to you and ALL who read this: DON'T commit a P/C crime in the United States of America in this day and age.
Hold into the wi


VarmintGuy

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I've stated my belief as to the outcome several times;even have dinero on it with my latin super macho amigo, Jorge. You read the thread title,right? You also read Lott's analysis, right?

There are some of you selling this jury short because they're all female. Bad mistake but I understand how the machismo works in the minds of some players.

Zimm walks.

Closing arguments Wed/Thursday with the jury being out less than one full business day to render the obvious verdict.

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And then I'll deal with Jorge. Montana Man too if he didn't puss out.


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