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Rock Chuck, Interesting performance on those Accubonds..I have never used them in my .270, but have killed 3 or 4 elk with them in my .340 and .300.. I did recover one from a bull killed with the .340.. It lost wt. but did not separate from the jacket..My next to last elk was killed with a 165 gr. Accubond out of my old .300..I did not recover it but in neither case was meat destruction unacceptable.. I also dropped a big whitetail with the .340 and Accubonds.. It is interesting how bullets work for us sometimes, but someone else has trouble with them..My best friend's son is a 7mm mag. fan..Last fall he killed a big cow with 140 Balistic Tips at long range.. When I mentioned the Accubonds, he said like you he didn/t like the way they performed..As I said for my part, I have had excellent success with them, but as you pointed out Partitions are the best of the best.. Everyone is scrambling to duplicate what John Nosler did 60 years ago..
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I had one AB come apart in an elk. I found the jacket in the chest when dressing it. Later we found the core in the heart when we cooked it.
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A .270 is adequate for elk, but you have to hit them good. If you're shaky and can't see that well, forget about 400 yards and try 250. Tracking a wounded elk is not fun and can take a long time. Do the right thing and get close enough to kill one instead of wound it.
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Odd performance from an Accubond. My buds and I have used them for over 10 years in cartridges from a .300 RUM to .30-06 to 7mm. I shot a bull at 42 yards with my RUM and a 200 grain Accubond at 3200 fps. If a bullet was ever gonna come apart, that would have done it. Not saying they are perfect, but all included, we've killed close to 100 critters with them. I'm going to load them in .270 for my daughter this fall. I trust them completely. mtmuley
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A .270 is adequate for elk, but you have to hit them good. If you're shaky and can't see that well, forget about 400 yards and try 250. Tracking a wounded elk is not fun and can take a long time. Do the right thing and get close enough to kill one instead of wound it. +1...and it depends on the shots you are willing to take as well...
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Dino, what area did you draw? Congratulations, wherever it is.
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Ditto what PaleRider and raybass said. You can experiment with several different loads to find the one that shoots best, or just get some 150 Partitions and go kill elk.
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Area 75 late, any hints will be accepted and kept secret :-) I have an odd habit of using a "Theme" for my hunts. It's 1940/50's's this year. Wool, leather boots, canvas wall tent, and a 1954 M-70 with a six power scope. And a lot of walking. (no horse)
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And a big Thank You to everyone for a very productive and polite thread :-)
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Sorry, Dino, not familiar with 75, were it 11 I might have had some info.
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I'm sorry, I don't have ANY experience shooting elk with the .270, but if you believe what Ross Seyfried has to say about it, you've made a VERY good choice: 1. "When in doubt . . . get a .270 Winchester!" 2. "The most successful African Safari I ever guided was shot with a .270 Winchester loaded with 150 grain Nosler Partition bullets...He shot two extremely tough animals, a zebra and a wildebeest, first. Each fell to a single shot, as did a huge lion. He broke a sitatungaοΏ½s neck (that was the only target) offhand, in the wind, at 300 yards. An elk-sized kudu bull tumbled when the bullet hit the point of his shoulders." 3. "Over the last dozen years my son and I have guided for more than 100 elk here at Elk Song. They have been taken with a remarkable spectrum of rifles ranging from 4-bore to 6.5 mm, with a good selection of .577s, .416s, .375s, 338s and .300s in the middle. Many of them have been taken with .270s and I can tell you that no cartridge puts an elk on the ground more quickly than the .270 Winchester loaded with the magnificent (and now non-existent) 140 grain Winchester Failsafe bullet. (Some of the Barnes X designs are producing similar results.)" If you want the whole article, see: http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ross-seyfried-busting-the-magnum-myth/Good luck!
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My last elk (spike bull) was taken with a .270 loaded with a Hornady 130 gr Interlock. One shot @ about 125 yards & I had 5 hours of hard work getting him off the mountain.
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Hey Dino, need some MREs for that hunt? I've a case or two left if you do.
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