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There's a ammo shortage? Really? Wtf?
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all of the rimfire ammo producers are making more now than at any one time in their history and they can't keep up? i'm sorry but i hate to admit it but i just might have to strap on a tinfoil hat on this one. it just doesn't add up. someone or some group has to be pulling something. i just hope this issue cleans its self up soon. heck its almost to the point where a guy can shoot centerfire cheaper than rimfire (TIC)
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I still don't see why it's that difficult to understand. Even people who don't shoot often are picking up .22 when they find it. Tons of people who normally shoot a lot of rifle such as the AR crowd are picking up tons of .22 to shoot beacuse it's cheaper than 5.56 right now and you can get a conversion to shoot it in your AR.
Now throw in all the people who already shoot .22 and it adds up to a crapload of demand. It self feeds. You might not even need .22 but if you go to the shop and there's no .22 for 3 months and then one day you are in there and they have some you pick up "just in case" because you haven't seen any in months and go home and put it next to the stack of .22 you already own.
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Cheaper Than Dirt is not someone I would ever want to do business with; that just confirms it. Hey, if people want to pay that, they're welcome to do it. I see it as VERY counter-productive. As long as idiots pay it, the ammo crunch will continue.
The best thing the shooting community can do is take 6 months off and just don't buy anything more than the occasional box of ammo. Let the industry get the message. But if consumption doesn't drop off, this lunacy will continue.
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What dirt are they comparing their prices to? Probably the dirt on Martha's Vineyard seacoast.
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as so often happens Miles, you guess wrong. OK, you tell me why you would go to their website when you know the price is way higher than you are willing to pay. miles
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The best thing the shooting community can do is take 6 months off and just don't buy anything more than the occasional box of ammo. Let the industry get the message. It's not the industry that is creating the problem. It is the $7.00 an hour Wal-Mart employee that pockets a $50 bill every time he calls Joe Blow to come intercept the ammo shipment of the day... It is scalpers buying the ammo after the tip about the shipment to Wal-Mart. It is the hoarders that won't let the ammo hit the shelf, even though they had to go buy another portable building to store it in so they can sell it for $60 per 100 on Gun Broker. It is retailers that allow the supply to be bought by low-life's before it goes on the shelves. It is the panic buyers that feel like the ammo will never be avl. again. It is Obama and his minions. Until it calms down, and demand is squelched, it will continue. I do feel like the ammo manufacturers are producing all they can. Why not? I mean it's not like there are no orders for ammo... I'm surprised that the insanity has lasted this long with not many signs of the problem correcting itself. It may continue until Obama and his like are out of office. I hope not, but it may...
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as so often happens Miles, you guess wrong. OK, you tell me why you would go to their website when you know the price is way higher than you are willing to pay. miles because, Miles, I was not looking for .22 ammo in the first place. I was looking to see if there was a deal on MREs. While there, I took a look at, first, some .38 Special and some .30 carbine. No deals there either. At THAT point, and just for grins, I took a peek at the .22 LR stuff. Now, do you need a run down on anything else I was doing today? I mean, I went to the grocery store, my business, AAA to get some maps..........
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all of the rimfire ammo producers are making more now than at any one time in their history and they can't keep up? i'm sorry but i hate to admit it but i just might have to strap on a tinfoil hat on this one. it just doesn't add up. someone or some group has to be pulling something. i just hope this issue cleans its self up soon. heck its almost to the point where a guy can shoot centerfire cheaper than rimfire (TIC) I have to think this way as well. Stores used to have bricks of .22 stacked to the roof. Now there are none. It stretches credulity to believe that all those manufactures, and the importers that bring in the RIO, the Aquila and other imports, just can't produce enough for a little spike in demand. When the smoke clears, we may get the truth some day. The truth won't include 'we can't keep up with demand'. That is BS.
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Kevin, so you suggest that we go for 6 months unarmed? I think that is what your president wants to happen.
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The best thing the shooting community can do is take 6 months off and just don't buy anything more than the occasional box of ammo. Let the industry get the message. It's not the industry that is creating the problem. It is the $7.00 an hour Wal-Mart employee that pockets a $50 bill every time he calls Joe Blow to come intercept the ammo shipment of the day... It is scalpers buying the ammo after the tip about the shipment to Wal-Mart. It is the hoarders that won't let the ammo hit the shelf, even though they had to go buy another portable building to store it in so they can sell it for $60 per 100 on Gun Broker. It is retailers that allow the supply to be bought by low-life's before it goes on the shelves. It is the panic buyers that feel like the ammo will never be avl. again. It is Obama and his minions. Until it calms down, and demand is squelched, it will continue. I do feel like the ammo manufacturers are producing all they can. Why not? I mean it's not like there are no orders for ammo... I'm surprised that the insanity has lasted this long with not many signs of the problem correcting itself. It may continue until Obama and his like are out of office. I hope not, but it may... Well all of that requires a buyer...and we would be best off if such buyers took a few months off. That's what I'm getting at. It doesn't matter if there is some great conspiracy in how the ammo is obtained. The issue is the demand. We need to lessen the demand, and everything will come back to normal. But as long as demand is irrational and unreasonable, then prices and supply will follow suit.
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Now, do you need a run down on anything else I was doing today? I mean, I went to the grocery store, my business, AAA to get some maps.......... Well, I guess that you could explain your need to try and be a horses ass. miles
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Now, do you need a run down on anything else I was doing today? I mean, I went to the grocery store, my business, AAA to get some maps.......... Well, I guess that you could explain your need to try and be a horses ass. miles no problem 'splaning that aspect Miles. All was good until you showed YOUR azz.  Now, have we insulted each other enough? Can we move on?
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Some of you need to hang out on the larger gun forums like AR15.COM and see when someone post that a site or retailer has .22 in stock. It literally takes seconds for a thousand people to see the thread and instantly order everything they have or drive down there and pick it up. Nothing more than never before seen demand.
Another retailer posted they had 3 sea containers full of imported ammo and posted pics. They sold out (3) 40' containers in less than 2 minutes after the post.
Lots of demand from people you may or may not hang around.
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Bought some CCI HP LR for $6 last week
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some years it pays to stock up on plywood
some years .22 ammo
wish I could figure it out the year before instead of the year after
we damn sure better hope the Chinese don't start plinking (gulp)
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I think the Chinese make our plywood now because the EPA determined the bonding agent was not safe for American workers. Same thing goes for black pipe (gas). They coat it in China because it's not safe for use to do so.
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All was good until you showed YOUR azz. I expect you was one before you ever heard of me. miles
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Eley tenex is only 7 dollars per box of fifty higher than a reputable dealer I use. CTD can go to hell before I ever buy a thing from them.
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All was good until you showed YOUR azz. I expect you was one before you ever heard of me. miles well then, let me stay in character , with a hearty '[bleep] you'.
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