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I remain with two questions that hasn't hardly been answered yet: and they are 1) did the earliest humans have a tail about 6 inches long? does anyone know for sure? and number 2) did Adam and Eve both have a belly-button? if not, why not? so, we have unanswered quandaries on our hands. I like the Story of Gilgamesh. ya know, those aliens, aka as the Fates, as they develop humankind on the Earth. 
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Do you believe that the Creator of the universe could have used evolution as a means to achieve His creative objectives...? no
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I'd like for someone to explain to me how 15K years ago, man looked at a grass plant with kernals the size of pepper flakes that wouldnt even prosses in his digestive tract, and made the desision to carry out the 2000 year project of selectivly breeding it inot an edible ceral/ grain. While over the enitire span of 2000 years no caloric benifit could be obtained...
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OMG! just to help from a recollection standpoint, everyone needs to go back and read Daniel Quinn's cult classic, My Ishmael.
it'll help to get everyone up to speed. later, the reading of Thomas Cahill's classic, How the Irish Saved Western Civilization will also help enlighten the masses.
evolution is happening as we speak, but how did Life come to be? now, that's the question, isn't it?
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evolution is happening as we speak, but how did Life come to be? now, that's the question, isn't it? Gus, that is called abiogenesis, and it is a seperate question from evolution. Once that first population of single celled organism came into being, differentiation began. How those first cells came into being is it's own complex question.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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evolution is happening as we speak, but how did Life come to be? now, that's the question, isn't it? Gus, that is called abiogenesis, and it is a seperate question from evolution. Once that first population of single celled organism came into being, differentiation began. How those first cells came into being is it's own complex question. amazingly, you and I are in agreement. so, we accept that evolution is proceeding as we speak. but, for the record, how did that first life form, the first one-celled lifeform come into existence? we'd all like to know.
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I'd like for someone to explain to me how 15K years ago, man looked at a grass plant with kernals the size of pepper flakes that wouldnt even prosses in his digestive tract, and made the desision to carry out the 2000 year project of selectivly breeding it inot an edible ceral/ grain. While over the enitire span of 2000 years no caloric benifit could be obtained...
Beer. And, I'm not kidding. Earliest bread was for making beer, it wasn't for eating. Anchorstein in CA made a batch of it a few years back.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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but, for the record, how did that first life form, the first one-celled lifeform come into existence? we'd all like to know. Science has been working on that question for a while, and has some theories, but because we don't know precisely the environment in which it occurred, it's a very difficult question to precisely answer ... that is, without a time machine.
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Antlers: Don't know if there WAS a creator of the universe, or how life began. DO know that yes, evolution is happening. And in some places the process is really fast, faster then Darwin knew. A good book on this subject: The Beak of the Finch, by Jonathan Weiner. It won the Pulitzer prize and the publication date is 1995. A good book for adults and adolescents learning about evolution. All the Best.
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evolution is happening as we speak, but how did Life come to be? now, that's the question, isn't it? Gus, that is called abiogenesis, and it is a seperate question from evolution. Once that first population of single celled organism came into being, differentiation began. How those first cells came into being is it's own complex question. amazingly, you and I are in agreement. so, we accept that evolution is proceeding as we speak. but, for the record, how did that first life form, the first one-celled lifeform come into existence? we'd all like to know. Gus, let me give you a mind blowing thought. In 2 billion years when the sun goes red giant and consumes the Earth, our descendents (if they have not escaped this rock) will be as different from us as we are from that first single cell organism..... Now take a good long hit on your bong......and contemplate THAT!!
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Evolution? Yes of course it happened. Even the deluded who believe in fairies and pixies are starting to accept the mounting and overwhelming proof of evolution. Eventually humans will be rid of their gods as well and except the idea that there is no "creator". We just are.
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Beer. And, I'm not kidding.
Earliest bread was for making beer, it wasn't for eating. Anchorstein in CA made a batch of it a few years back. Great, I got a picture of a dozen slop headed hairy middle easteners trying to tack together a bar with no hammer or nails!
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Gus, let me give you a mind blowing thought.
In 2 billion years when the sun goes red giant and consumes the Earth, our descendents (if they have not escaped this rock) will be as different from us as we are from that first single cell organism.....
Now take a good long hit on your bong......and contemplate THAT!!
Seen the Walmart pics...I believe you!
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Evolution? Sure no doubt about it. However there is some Power out there that controls it and guides it.
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Evolution? Sure no doubt about it. However there is some Power out there that controls it and guides it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please give us your single best piece of evidence to support this claim.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Evolution? Sure no doubt about it. However there is some Power out there that controls it and guides it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please give us your single best piece of evidence to support this claim. AS, Read your bible! You won't have to go very far. Genesis 1:24 - And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creatures, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth: and it was so.
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Do you believe that the Creator of the universe could have used evolution as a means to achieve His creative objectives...? For the animals, maybe.  But I never descended from any ape. YMMV
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But I never descended from any ape. YMMV Actually, no one said you did. You descended from an animal that from which apes also descended. Just as you didn't descend from your cousin nor your cousin from you. But you both have a common ancestor.
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But I never descended from any ape. YMMV Actually, no one said you did....... But you both have a common ancestor. That paleontologists have yet to produce. But they are "certain" its out there....somewhere.
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