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Bounty HUnter
This is an argument you ought to just quit on... You need the laws and rules to match and be complete. Posting just part of the rule is where you fail here. You are only required to notify the common carrier if the recipient is NOT an FFL or otherwise entitled entity.

As he correctly pointed out, UPS rules are not laws and there is no legal consequence to breaking them.

All I painted was what USPS requires.

Exactly.
Box it up like it will be thrown by gorillas ( kicked and stomped)
Because it WILL.
Don't mark anything on it.
If anyone is stupid enough to ask, tell them :
" Machined Parts "

Because that is an accurate description. You are not lying and they do not need to know more.

If you mark it
"Expensive FIREARM "
it is sure to disappear!

Then pick the gorillas of your choice.
I have used them all and find USPS or UPS to be more convenient.

Then bragging about breaking Fed laws on the internet is foolish... And dragging your FFL into it probably would not make him happy.

I used Registered Mail once for a $7k rifle that I sold to a guy out East. It took 10 or 12 days to get there from Iowa. That was normal - not lost in bulk mail. The package was signed in and out of a hold cage at every stop and, although neither I nor my local postmaster could look up its progress, when the buyer got worried and I got worried the Postmaster started calling for me and tracked it down as it moved. He is a good guy and a knows that I ship higher dollar rifles around a fair bit, so he went the extra mile to call the various mail depots along the way, and then wrestled with the supervisors at each of them to get a special accounting of my box.

I didn't realize that it was so slow but now that I do, I generally go Priority, insured. However, for big dollar guns (by my standards), registered is the only way to go, albeit slower than bulk mail.

BTW, if a father is mailing his adult daughter in another state a family shotgun, does he need to do the FFL thing on the receiving end (ie, if this is an "in the family" sort of thing)? I was just asked about an FFL by a friend whose daughter is a grad student here.

If it is being transferred as part of an estate's disposition or an intestate disposition, then no.

Not a estate issue. No one died. He is just sending her a shotgun to go bird hunting with this fall.

Uhhh... Using the estate exemption is no bed of roses and ends up pretty close to the same hassle as just getting an FFL...

Mind explaining that?

You statement:
"About two hours ago I walked into the local USPS, alone, (I am not a FFL holder) with a pistol in a " if it fits it ships" box, sent it to Florida. All I had was a simple one page form signed by a local FFL.
No FFL license was ask for, or required, from here, or the recipient from the USPS."

It is illegal for a non-FFL to ship handguns via USPS. Therefore one has to assume you were acting as agent to the FFL (perfectly legal) to use USPS. However, for that to be the case the FFL had to enter the handgun in his books and required a copy of the receiving FFL. He also is required to check the BATFE website to verify the FFL is good.

You imply none of that was done... There is a USPS form notifying them of handgun shipments between FFLs and that may have been what you carried in. But that does not change the fact there is a lot more to it than just getting blessed by an FFL before mailing a handgun.

Your fulla chit as a Christmas turkey, I didn't imply any of that at all.
All I said was what USPS requires.

No law was broken.

Take it to your gunsmith/dealer and pay him to ship it.

Gunner

Call it what you wish... your post implies you had nothing more than a form signed by an FFL:

"All I had was a simple one page form signed by a local FFL."

While it obviously open to interpretation the way it was delivered in an open forum would lead one to believe you had done as described above... Few FFLs let anyone but friends mail guns for them, in my experience.

At the POST OFFICE.


Completely unfounded accusations.

Perhaps Evelyn Woodheads course might be beneficial

I like to remove the stock to reduce length. Wrap both pcs well and tape together so it's one solid unit inside the box.

Here in Canada there is an overlength fee for boxes over 1 meter. Shipping shorter boxes avoids damage, is cheaper and the package looks less like a firearm.

Perhaps you need a course in basic technical writing. Suggesting as you did that a form signed by an FFL made a difference has implications.

In all my years mailing handguns I have never been asked for said form and when supplied by me none of the employees at the window even knew what it was.

Gawd these threads are entertaining!

Or just pack it up yourself and send it. As was the focus of the original inquiry.

Acknowledging it's existence?



And just what does that have to do with my experience today?
Not a dam thing.


Running your mouth, then caught being dummer n Daffy Duck must suk for such a aaahhummm,,, smart technickel guy.

Falsely accusing folks ain't nice.

Wow! And I have the reading comprehension problem??? I already stated at least twice that there is a USPS form 1509 for notifying them of handguns being shipped.

http://about.usps.com/forms/ps1508.pdf

And you still fail to grasp the way you posed your visit to the PO?

Bet they were impressed with your coolness... yeah right!