Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles anyone know about AR-10's?

Oh info is easy to find but forums that are run by advertisers will only tell you what they want you to know.

Have a good day.

Yes, sometimes you have to wade through the mess to but overall ARFCOM has the most information available I have found for AR type rifles. You have to accept that all forums are going to have people who just run their mouth. On larger sites this will seem more common. Have thick skin and don't take any of it personally.

This is a great source for .308 based AR platforms.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/413443_.html

ARF.com is pretty good if you can stomach their flacking for moslem terrorists.

Thank you CBMJR, that should help those looking. There is also a great gas rate/buffer/bufferspring chart showing where your empty brass should be landing over on 6.8 forums for those whose brass is flying 10-20ft in front of them.

Yes it is for the 6.8 however it will point you in the right direction as to if you need more buffer weight/ less buffer weight or more or less gas for your ar.

Seems like DPMS AR's in 308's are in good supply around here. One dealer has them for around $1100. Plain with rails, so you have to add sights, scope, laser, or whatever you want to add.

Smith & Wesson M&P-10 should be a great 308.

The technical forums are as good as anywhere. You do have to learn who to listen to, but that is like anywhere. The shenanigans mostly stay in GD.

I know DPMS and Remington share the same magazines. Does S&W use the same as DPMS? If so, their style magazines will probably win out over the long run. Wish they would make a Mil-Spec for the AR-10 platform. Might help bring costs down on those. I know DPMS and Rem have uppers for 243, 260 Rem, 7mm08, 308 of course and 338 Federal. Wouldn't be hard to make a 358 also if someone wanted to. Sure gives a lot of standardized calibers for that platform.

There is a mil-spec for the .308 AR. The M110 and Mk11.

That does not mean the platform has been standardized like the AR-15 though. The SR-25/DPMS type magazines are becoming the standard. Even Armalite is going back to them for the AR-10.

S&W MP-10 uses the DPMS magazines and the Magpul style as well.

So the only other option is the Rock River LAR8 which uses FAL metric mags. I have a FAL, but a Rock River LAR8 is several hundred dollars more than the $975 DPMS I have seen around here. Several hundred would buy some magazines, sights, and scope or reflex sight. However, if I went with Rock River I could keep my FAL magazines and just sell my FAL. Rock River is about $1,500 though. $500 would buy sights, scope and 8 magazines. Another reason is DPMS offers several caliber uppers if I decided I wanted a 338 Federal for big game hunting out west or Alaska, a 243 or 260 for varmit/pronghorn hunting. 308 gives me a good all round hunting caliber. In Alabama we can use semi-autos with no magazine limit. Lots of states like that.

Now if all manufacturers would only standardize the attachments for the uppers.

Read about two pages back from the "DMSBandit" for what you get for the extra money. If it works for you, RRA are good rifles.

Agreed, I'd like to see more upper interchange, or even some stripped uppers from the ones that don't share sizing, for caliber experiments.

I've seen them, and I'm not impressed. Pencil barrels and cheap looking like a sportacle, and the same price as a LAR-8.

I've seen the S&W and the DPMS side by side. The S&W cost about $200 more and had a thinner barrel. The DPMS had a heavier barrel. Both used the same magazines. I think with S&W you are paying for the name. Haven't seen an LAR-8, only online for about $300 more than DPMS plus you have to order through a dealer and pay more. However, the use of FAL magazines would be a plus for me.

The Smith has a ambi-mag release, ambi-saftey, and ambi-bolt release. The controls are in the places you expect if you have handled AR rifles.

The gas block is "clunky" looking, but same plain as the receiver for sight mounting.

The Smith factory stock and handguards are functional, not fancy.

The RRA bolt release is ambi, but forward under the front of the trigger guard, and pulls down IIRC.

I can't guarantee that the S&W will shoot (but I'd be willing to be that it would) I can, however, guarantee that the DPMS won't. They use junk barrels, unless you spring for the SASS model, and that thing is "crew-served" heavy.

I thought "light weight" was a plus with these rifles. Isn't weight the #1 complaint directed at AR-10s?

Well The Armalite AR10s will shoot

I have had one for at least 15 years...

Snake

I remember now about the ambi mag release and safety. I am right handed, so that isn't a concern. Haven't heard the DPMS isn't accurate. I would want more accuracy than my FAL gives. Might have to consider the LAR8.

Winner for me, which is why I went S&W over the others. I've put five rounds through it to get it on the same paper, haven't tried any accuracy work. Hope to do that in the next couple of weeks.