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anyone play with a Mauser 12 yet?
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Yes, a walnut-stocked .300 Winchester Magnum. It's a very nicely made rifle that functions great and shoots very well. Weight is right around 8 pounds with a 15-ounce scope.
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It's a very nicely made rifle that functions great and shoots very well. What kind of groups were you able to get with it, Mule Deer?
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I was shooting 5-shot groups with factory ammo only, for a review in a magazine that requires exactly that. The overall average for a BUNCH of groups was 1.35 inches.
This won't sound like much to those who always shoot 3-shot groups, but 3-shot groups will average about .6 times as large as 5-shot groups. Meaning this rifle would have averaged around .8 inch for 3-shot groups with a variety of factory ammo--and would easily beat that with handloads worked up for this specific rifle.
That's also right out of the box, with no modification to the bedding--or adjusting the trigger, because it didn't need any adjusting. Haven't measured it yet, but it's very crisp and would guess the pull at 2 to 2-1/2 pounds.
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That is pretty impressive performance for an off the shelf new rifle.
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Yeah, I was pretty impressed!
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Scha-WING! What is the MSRP?
Anyone seen real-world pricing on em yet?
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efw,
Apparently real-world pricing is following the MSRP pretty closely so far, $1799 for the walnut-stocked model and $1499 for the synthetic.
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efw,
Apparently real-world pricing is following the MSRP pretty closely so far, $1799 for the walnut-stocked model and $1499 for the synthetic. Been eyeing these in 8x57, but waiting for a good general review review. I like the walnut, but think the synthetic would be better for western washington. Do you have an opinion on Mauser synthetic stock?
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Yes, my question as well, Mule Deer. What do you think of the synthetic stock, if you have handled one?
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efw,
Apparently real-world pricing is following the MSRP pretty closely so far, $1799 for the walnut-stocked model and $1499 for the synthetic. Wow that is way higher than I thought.
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Paulh and bigwhoop,
Yes, I've handled the syn-stock version and it would work just fine.
As a matter of fact, the other rifle I tested at the same time was one of the new Sauer 101's with a synthetic stock. The 101 and Mauser 12 are VERY closely related, in fact they use the same detachable magazine, and I strongly suspect their synthetic stocks comes from the same source. The 101 I tested is a .270 Winchester and it outshot the Mauser 12, averaging 1.21 inches for a bunch of 5-shot groups with three kinds of factory ammo. In fact I am probably going to inquire about the price for a used test rifle.
The biggest difference between the two rifles is the safety. The Mauser's is very similar to the Model 70 Winchester's, while the Sauer's is a tang safety with an additional small button on top that must be pushed in before the safety will move.
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efw,
Apparently real-world pricing is following the MSRP pretty closely so far, $1799 for the walnut-stocked model and $1499 for the synthetic. Been eyeing these in 8x57, but waiting for a good general review review. I like the walnut, but think the synthetic would be better for western washington. Do you have an opinion on Mauser synthetic stock? I got one of these last month, in an 8x57, with synthetic stock. Am liking it very much.
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I was shooting 5-shot groups with factory ammo only, for a review in a magazine that requires exactly that. The overall average for a BUNCH of groups was 1.35 inches.
This won't sound like much to those who always shoot 3-shot groups, but 3-shot groups will average about .6 times as large as 5-shot groups. Meaning this rifle would have averaged around .8 inch for 3-shot groups with a variety of factory ammo--and would easily beat that with handloads worked up for this specific rifle.
That's also right out of the box, with no modification to the bedding--or adjusting the trigger, because it didn't need any adjusting. Haven't measured it yet, but it's very crisp and would guess the pull at 2 to 2-1/2 pounds. Your making it hard not to buy one. Might you be selling the test rifle?
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Not if I decide to buy it!
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What's the trigger mechanism comparable to? Simple or complex? They just barely give you a peek at it in the video. I like that someone, especially out of Europe, has come out with a classic looking rifle these days. I about sick of the bizarre lines of rifles and shotguns these days.
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John: what's your opinion of the way the barrel is attached to the action? Some folks seem to find that a problem.
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pabucktail,
It's a typical modern enclosed trigger, with a couple of screws for adjustment, and since the safety is on the rear of the bolt it doesn't affect pull.
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