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Can you split a sternum with one? There are better tools available.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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That's about the dumbest move a guy can make with a knife, especially with a Piranta
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Can you split a sternum with one? I didn't try but I doubt it. I also think you would have issues removing the skull cap.
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Have used and seen used MANY blades...
A scalpel of any flavor may be appropriate for fine work, such as lips, eyes, ears, etc. Yet any taxidermist I've seen uses a blade which can be renewed, and has a steel handy. And one good cut with a QUALITY blade beats seventeen cuts with a super sharp disposable blade every time.
I've heard the bark, and seen the bite.
Having taken delivery of a new pair of Ingrams in December of '12, and having skinned, quartered, and packed 3 elk in less than 48 hours, without so much as having to touch either to steel or stone, whilst the "Piranta Queen" stood and watched in awe... I ain't impressed with disposable blades nearly as much as I am with disposable gloves from Harbor Freight.
You pays your money and makes your choice.
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It would seem that we are in agreement, so I like how you think! To me, the Piranta is simply a more ergonomic X-acto. Similar and usually readily available is an X-acto knife. They accept different blade types. They're especially handy turning lips, ears, and eyes.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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I bet the farm more Buck 119's have been used to process elk than Ingrams. Anyone claiming a Piranta is a start to finish blade, and had much of a finish.
I'd drop big $$$ on a Chef's knife before an Ingram.
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A scalpel of any flavor may be appropriate for fine work, such as lips, eyes, ears, etc. Yet any taxidermist I've seen uses a blade which can be renewed, and has a steel handy. And one good cut with a QUALITY blade beats seventeen cuts with a super sharp disposable blade every time. To each his own. I didn't see any taxidermists or have any steels handy where I was this year, up on the mountain miles from the truck. Which is the whole point of a lightweight knife for backpacking. But I did skin and bone out an elk with a Piranta. It worked fine for my purposes, didn't slow me down one bit. For my purposes, skinning and boning an elk with a $30 knife beats a doing the same task with a $300 knife every time, especially when it weighs less. I know that many like and appreciate fine knives, and for them, a $300 knife is the right choice. It's not for me. Indeed, you pays your money and makes your choice.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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I've got a handful of Ingrams - they are some of my favorites. Never felt handicapped cutting something up with them, and they do stay sharp, especially if you know what you're doing. My last trip in the mountains I had one of these (top one) on my neck: And two of these in my pack. Only pic I have in the bucket of the parer in action I guess.
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LOL, I don't believe anyone said you'd be handicapped using an Ingram.
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Scheels is carrying these. I may grab one tomorrow.
At the very least it would be a good blade to leave in the possibles bag. I would think.
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Did you acquire a blank or pull the scales on one?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Planning to try one of these next, thing is a hoss though...
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Planning to try one of these next, thing is a hoss though... I'm taking one of those to CO next week. With a massive amount of luck, I'll let you guys know how it performs on elk.
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Can you split a sternum with one? Why do you need to "split the sternum"? I've busted down moose, elk, mountain goat, deer, antelope, and bear, and never found a reason to.
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Mr Bender, Those come without scales, with a nifty sheath that works great for neck carry. Some don't like the sheath, I wrapped some electrical tape around mine when I first got it, and have had no problems. It has a little button that goes in the first hole, that serves as the "release". Putting scales on it makes the sheath no-worky, so you have another hour of work building a kydex one.
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I have seen several of these replaceable blade knives used on big game. I personally have not been impressed. I'll take my Doziers over them any time.
Now, if you have knives with cheap steel that won't hold an edge or are not able to properly sharpen a knife, the replacements blade knives are very nice. I have hunted with a few folks who started the hunt with dull knives and then couldn't cut anything when needed. For them these type knives would have worked a lot better than what they had.
I used my Dozier to skin a black bear and an elk without sharpening it. It could not shave hair after that, but was still sharp enough to skin a deer or two. For me, I'll take a really sharp good quality knife over the disposable ones.
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Jeez. Who wouldn't take a Dozier over a $30 plastic knife with disposable blades?
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Jeez. Who wouldn't take a Dozier over a $30 plastic knife with disposable blades? Me.
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Jeez. Who wouldn't take a Dozier over a $30 plastic knife with disposable blades? No high dollar knives for me except a couple of Randalls but I'm not sold on the fact that the steels are truly better. Yeah, ATS 34 and D2 will hold an edge longer but they TAKE longer to sharpen. Their ain't no free lunch.
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Just don't suggest using a pretty decent knife for 40 bucks
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