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Ladies & Gentlemen,
I will need a pair of insulated boots very soon. The type of boots I am thinking of need to provide warmth down to -20 to -30 degrees centigrade and provide support.
I suffer from cold feet, due to sweaty feet problem. Fortunately, the environment is cold and dry. Also, the boots do not have to be safety type steel toecaps (work boots are provided for site).
So, for those people which spend time outside in cold temperatures - farmers etc., what do you recommend?
My initial search shows the Kenetrek Mountain extreme with 1000 gram thinsulate and Danner Canadian boots with 600 gram thinsulate insulation.
I believe the Kenetrek boots, made in Italy, cannot be re-soled, a big drawback with expensive boots but the Danner can be. I generally wear Meindl boots but the look of their Garmisch puts me off - again, can these be re-soled?
Thanks in advance
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Are you going to be physically active at those temps, or standing around? Foot ware that is appropriate when you are active is not the same as when you are inactive, and vice versa.
I prefer mountaineering boots when active, and PAC boots when inactive
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The old "bunny" boots or military surplus boots. I don't know what their real name is, but I have 2 pair. One is black, rated for minus 30. The others are white, rated for minus 70.
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I am going to be fairly active - walking around, some hiking / trekking. It is not a stand hunt type of situation. It is more a case of surviving the bitter cold outside of work.
Most of the ground is flattish, but undulating to varying degrees but there is a big mountain range right behind my future office location, which I have visited in the Summertime.
I thought about Pac-boots as well, but wondered about ankle support an stability on slippery inclines.
As I mentioned, fortunately, the cold is a dry cold there, which is much better than the UK and Norway which feels much colder due to the humidity.
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Maybe the Danner Ft Lewis 600G with safety toe?
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The old "bunny" boots or military surplus boots. I don't know what their real name is, but I have 2 pair. One is black, rated for minus 30. The others are white, rated for minus 70. This. kwg
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I would go with 1600-2000 gram thinsulate insulation for that cold. 600gr aint gonna cut it unless your moving constantly. Oh,and sweaty feet need 100% wool socks,or nothing works.
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Bunny boots, aka VB (vapor barrier) boots.
Generally milsurp.
Best thing for sweaty feet is an aerosol antiperspirant.
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http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/sh...5&zmas=3&zmac=6&zmap=1605399You might want to look around for a cheaper price but these things are warm.
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they are expensive, but I haven't found anything better than Schnee's, out of Bozeman, MT if you're going to have to get your foot in a stirrup, get the packer...otherwise, just take your pick. get a spare inner bootie so you can dry one out while wearing the other if you've got sweaty feet....and spend some money on good wool socks. http://www.schnees.com/category/boots-shoes
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Sounds like you might oughtta try to keep your feet from sweating?
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The old "bunny" boots or military surplus boots. I don't know what their real name is, but I have 2 pair. One is black, rated for minus 30. The others are white, rated for minus 70. This. They have no equal, nothing else is even in the ballpark for real subzero cold. I've done hard rucksack marches at minus 10 or 20F, without socks (socks are stashed in my parka). When I got where I was going, I'd take the boots off and pour sweat out of them, then dry them out as best I could with a bandana, then don the dry socks and stand around on ice and snow with warm toes. You HAVE to get your feet out of them periodically, or you'll get trench foot. You also need to blow a little air through that valve on the ankle and submerge the boot and check for bubbles. It the boot had a hole, we trashed them. In 1975 pipeline workers would hand a GI four one-hundred dollar bills for a pair of white bunny boots. They are that good.
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Bunny boots are very good and better if you put a felt insole. Carry extra insoles and socks and the sweaty foot thing is mitigated somewhat.
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I would go with 1600-2000 gram thinsulate insulation for that cold. 600gr aint gonna cut it unless your moving constantly. Oh,and sweaty feet need 100% wool socks,or nothing works. Celsius. That's like -10 Mineotanheight
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For my last deer hunt I purchased a pair of Danner Pronghorn GTX 1000g. (they make a 1200g version too I think) Excellent boots. Perfectly dry and warm. I too have the cold foot problem and found these boots comfy in wet snotty cold temps and not overly hot when walking.
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I will second SteveNO's idea with the Schnee's. Mine are about 5-6 years old and just had new bottoms put on them last year. Wear them everyday Winter-early Spring, the rubber finally started to crack. Great boots, most comfortable pac type boot I've ever worn. These should work for the really cold days. http://www.schnees.com/product/2613/schnees-footwear
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Since you mentioned you'll be in hiking terrain with a mountain nearby, I'd suggest something specifically made with that type of application. I have an older version of these and they're superb: http://www.sportiva.com/products/footwear/mountain/nepal-evo-gtxOtherwise, for something lighter, maybe these would suffice (footwear is a *very* personal decision): http://www.sportiva.com/products/footwear/mountain/lhotse-gtxI've frost-nipped my feet too many times while in cold, remote places and I know I'm now more susceptible to cold-weather injuries. So, I ensure my footwear is more than adequate to keep my toes warm. I have more boots than I'd care to admit, but they're like rifles - you have to choose the right "tool" for the job.
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Should add that you will also want to invest in a boot dryer.
An absolute must if you have sweaty feet and wear the boots everyday.
Peet makes one that is about $40-50.
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Mickey Mouse boots. aka surplus.
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