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No Idea, I remember him saying he liked the march..Pretty sure it was a 3-24x42 FFP. I hear rumors from Kelbys that March is coming out with a new hunting scope at SHOT next year. I was going to order one of their hunters but will now wait to see what the new and improved will look like.
Anyone know if bushnell works with Deon at all? THAT would be interesting.
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Not a fan of the holdover marks on the vertical wire either. Don't see the point with a good turret. I guess you could obviously just ignore them, but that reticle is pretty busy. I actually like Burris' new "wind reticle" quite a bit.
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The reticle looks pretty user friendly for both long and short range target solutions.
I agree it looks like it has been influenced some by the March setup, but at $1800 it would be half the price of a March.
I've shot a few of the high end Bushnells (HDMRs) a few years back and was impressed with the quality. And while I won't be parting with my S&B PMII anytime soon, I could certainly see there being a niche for this type of scope with LR hunters and comp shooters.
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You can get a March 2.5x25x42 for $2200.00 MSRP
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SWFA makes a 3-15x42 for 699 that meets those parameters exept for an exposed windage turret. Not sure it is worth the extra grand to eliminate the windage turret.
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You can get a March 2.5x25x42 for $2200.00 MSRP But, March FFP's are $3400,,And with the hunter being a 25x and RFP is a bit of a drawback. I dont mind RFP but dont want it over 15x on the top end.. I suppose one could simply remember the sub tensions at say 12-15x. I know lots of guys dont like MOA or MIL reticles on hunting rifles but my hunting rifles are kinda dual purpose as LR gong ringers so i like an MOA reticle in mine.
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SWFA makes a 3-15x42 for 699 that meets those parameters exept for an exposed windage turret. Not sure it is worth the extra grand to eliminate the windage turret. You might want to compare specs again.
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You can get a March 2.5x25x42 for $2200.00 MSRP But, March FFP's are $3400,,And with the hunter being a 25x and RFP is a bit of a drawback. I dont mind RFP but dont want it over 15x on the top end.. I suppose one could simply remember the sub tensions at say 12-15x. I know lots of guys dont like MOA or MIL reticles on hunting rifles but my hunting rifles are kinda dual purpose as LR gong ringers so i like an MOA reticle in mine. No way I'd do a RFP 25x, ever. Agree that 16X would be the max. Half at 8x is easy enough if need be.
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SWFA makes a 3-15x42 for 699 that meets those parameters exept for an exposed windage turret. Not sure it is worth the extra grand to eliminate the windage turret. You might want to compare specs again. Whoops.
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I have been watching this as well and I have to confess I am very intrigued. For me it will come down to price and finished weight for me.
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From a southern hunter's perspective, I'd like to see the reticle .1 mil for low light timber. But I could get by with .06.
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It's tough to beat a VX3 4.5-14 30mm LR CDS with a TMR reticle 40mm objective side focus About 1/2 the weight. Everything else about it is better too.
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You can get a March 2.5x25x42 for $2200.00 MSRP But, March FFP's are $3400,,And with the hunter being a 25x and RFP is a bit of a drawback. I dont mind RFP but dont want it over 15x on the top end.. I suppose one could simply remember the sub tensions at say 12-15x. I know lots of guys dont like MOA or MIL reticles on hunting rifles but my hunting rifles are kinda dual purpose as LR gong ringers so i like an MOA reticle in mine. I didn't know they had a tactical version...But your right not really apples to apples!
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It's tough to beat a VX3 4.5-14 30mm LR CDS with a TMR reticle 40mm objective side focus About 1/2 the weight. Everything else about it is better too. Not a terrible way to go, but i ditched the CDS for a TT, tried an MOA CDS on the 4.5-14 and a 3.5-10. hated them
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Not a fan of the holdover marks on the vertical wire either. Don't see the point with a good turret. I guess you could obviously just ignore them, but that reticle is pretty busy. I actually like Burris' new "wind reticle" quite a bit. I would also say that at the ~$1000 mark these will be an awesome seller, but when you approach $1500-1800 I think many guys would sooner go with a NF 2.5-10x42 rather than the Bushnell. I can see two benefits to the vertical subtension marks on the reticle- the first is that it can come in handy to have some extra holdover when you are limited to a single revolution in the elevation turret, and second for a true hunting scope it can sometimes be quicker to hold 10 mil than to dial it when comes down to a time-sensitive situation.
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Yup, they have their place.
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10 mil in the turret plus 8 in the reticle will get you WAY out there, and put most rounds into the subsonic range.
For what I do and my scope preferences (I lean heavily towards the LR tactical feature set and build style) this will be a great scope. If the price stays out of the stratosphere I'll give one a try and hopefully more after that.
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Agreed
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I would also say that at the ~$1000 mark these will be an awesome seller, but when you approach $1500-1800 I think many guys would sooner go with a NF 2.5-10x42 rather than the Bushnell.
You're probably right, but (Bushnell) will be marketing that scope to a group of shooters who will base their purchase(s) on performance rather than the name stenciled on the side of the scope. Take a look at the scopes used by Formidilosus for instance. I wonder how many folks here would have guessed that he chose Bushnell and SWFA SS scopes for his competition and hunting rifles knowing the kind of shooting he does.
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Bushnell is making great scopes. Been tested on the board and jig. A buddy is using one now and doing well
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