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OK. I can't stand it. I've heard enough! I've got to try some of the 168 TSX's. You guys have me all worked up over them! They sound like just the medicine for deer/elk and it would be terrible to run into a piggy with one. Does anybody have a favorite load for a 300SAUM with these dudes?
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56.5 grs Varget, COL 2.80. Not a screamer (2975) but very accurate in two 300 SAUMs
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Thank You! Is that from a Model 7 or 700?
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I would like someone who has to tried both the 165 and the 168-gr TSX bullets to tell us the big difference, if there is any.
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Not a SAUM but they run 3246fps out of my Win Mag. While I was thinking of using a 180g, now I'm thinking of a 165g MRX instead.
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I've got a 180 Partition load that shoots fairly tight and will run along just about 3050fps. But after hearing about these Triple Shocks...knock down, weight retention, accuracy and velocity...I just need to put it in the right place. I'm excited!
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i have seriously looked at the 168 tsx out of my 30-06 for elk and am thinking i am going to order some. what do you think? 168 or 180 out of 30-06 for elk?
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I think if you can get a little more poop out of the 168, and IF it retains as much weight as they say...go 168. The elk may recact as if hit by the 180, without the thump on your end.
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The retention is there, the ones that I've seen recovered so far look picture perfect.
The one I found went out at 53 grains and weighed 53 when I recovered it and got it on the scale.
Brads out of his big bull this year did about the same thing if I remember right. It started as 168 and after givng the bull flight 168 it still weighed 168.
IMO the 168 is all anyone would ever "need" if using a 30 cal of any sort.
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I run them in my WSM, not the same but I was using 67 gr of H4350 to get around 3125 fps, browning Abolt MOA load.
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Does anybody have a favorite load for a 300SAUM with these dudes?
Wayne AA2700 for 3100 f/s, outstanding accuracy in my 300 SAUM. Data available on Accurate's website--I used 165 gr bullet data and got pressure signs at 63.0 gr with the 168 TSX-- this is 2.2 gr below max as listed for a 165 gr bullet ; accuracy is best in my gun from 61.5 to 62.0 grains. Start load is 58.7 grains and you should really start there and work up. Also look at N560 for accuracy and velocity.
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I have to say I agree with watching out during load developement...especially with the 168tsx--it gets to max loads for me about 1.5-2 grains under what other bullets do...can't say why. Personally I'm getting better accuracy out of accubonds than the tsx's--I wish it wasn't so cause I believe in barnes performance.
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kraky,
Define better accuracy in terms of minute of deer at usuable ranges. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Here's the 168 from an elk Mark mentioned...
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Looks like a bullet failure to me. No meat and bone on it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Well, it was tough sucking the meat outa the petals but I finally managed and didn't use a toothpick or chip a tooth <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Raw or cooked? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I love the way those things usually expand flawlessly. Even in a tough media like sand. Nice picture. Show us the dead elk.
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With apologies to those that may have seen it:
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No apologies necessary for that dandy! Picture perfect bullet too.
I'm glad you didn't waste the meat from the bullet too! Elk meat's too good. I miss it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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