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All, I didn't consider the powder's medium burn rate and the affect on the barrel length. 22-24" makes more sense.
I'm looking at using the 225gr Accubond and it looks like H414 & 4350 yield the highest velocities (2675 and 2649 respectively). Any experience with these combos?
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Can't help you much on the powder question but since I have a longer barrel may have to try 4350 one of these days.At present I'm strictly using 4895 and 4064 with good results but most data researched indicates faster powders for shorter barrels though.
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My most recent kills with the rifle, a grizzly and black bear, used the 225 gr Accubond but I pushed it with VV-N550.
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So if you were going to build one on an M70, would you rebore, or rebarrel (assuming a relatively recent .270)?
This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.
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So if you were going to build one on an M70, would you rebore, or rebarrel (assuming a relatively recent .270)? Me? Rebarrel.
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Very efficient cartridge with workman-like performance. Mine is a REBORED pre64 M70 that was originally an '06. It was restocked in French walnut and checkered in a wrap around fleur-de-lis pattern. I shoot 210 Nosler PTs and have shot elk and moose with it and never needed more than one shot. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/WyoHunter1/33806resize.jpg Same here WH10, I recently bought a pre-64 270 with a bad bore, had it matte black cerakoted, pillar bedded it into an old Rimrock syn stock and had it rebored to 338-06, will be shooting for 2600 fps with the 250 gr Swift A Frame's. Have a VX-2 matte 3-9 compact Leupold in a set of cerakoted Leupold dual dovetail bases and rings, can't wait to start load development, aught to make a helluva all game/all weather rifle. Gunner
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Can't help you much on the powder question but since I have a longer barrel may have to try 4350 one of these days.At present I'm strictly using 4895 and 4064 with good results but most data researched indicates faster powders for shorter barrels though. I'll be trying RL-17 first with the 250 gr SAF's Woody, they aught to sing outta that 24" barrel. Gunner
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A question for you guys with 33 cal experience. What is your response to the folks who say 33 cal offers nothing over 30 cal? I've read respected writers state you have to jump up to 375 to gain anything meaningful over 30 cal. Hardly makes sense to me but I have little experience above 30 cal save playing with my 350 Rem Mag.
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33's are like 6.5's and 7mm's, their very high SD's make them killing sob's IMHO.
Were I to face a Kodiak bear in the alders, I'd much rather have my 338 WM with either the 250 or 275 gr Swift A Frames over any 300 anything, and this is coming from someone who has five 300 mags at the moment.
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A question for you guys with 33 cal experience. What is your response to the folks who say 33 cal offers nothing over 30 cal? I've read respected writers state you have to jump up to 375 to gain anything meaningful over 30 cal. Hardly makes sense to me but I have little experience above 30 cal save playing with my 350 Rem Mag. If the bullet is sitting in front of a .30-06 case they are probably right. That said, if you hadn't read all that and just went out and shot stuff with a .338-06 you'd be damned impressed with it. It's a great round.
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So if you were going to build one on an M70, would you rebore, or rebarrel (assuming a relatively recent .270)? Rebore. Saves a fair bit of change and all (three rifles and two handguns) that I have shoot well. Here's how mine likes the mentioned Accubond load. I read good things about JES Reboring. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa437/boxhead61/010.jpg)
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Advantage over an .30-06? Not sure, both kill stuff. But I did shoot a big fat barren doe deer in the back of the head at about 70 yards and a 200 Speer turned her a complete somersault. Spectacular.
200&210 melt stuff.
250 Woodleigh is not an ideal coyote load. It just punches a caliber hole.
I got five out of a pesky herd of javilina , but I could have likely got a few more with a mini-14.
Recoil is stiffer than most .30-06 loads.
I wish I had not dumped my less than perfect BAR laBounty rebore. Bore rough at the gas port, but it shot just fine anyway. Softer recoil, accurate enough, and I like the rifle. I had that one done for an invited Nilgi hunt. My host became ill and passed away. The hunt never happened, but worse by far, we lost a friend.
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Got a Model 70 in .270 and want it to go .338/06?
Why the hell would you spend real money on reboring a junky factory barrel when you could go with a custom?
Really stoked on a rebore? Maybe look for a used custom barrel and at least give the guy doing the work some decent steel to work with...
Lots of barrel blanks around Brownells, Midway, benchrest supply houses, tactical suppliers. Pac-Nor does a fine job delivering a threaded and chambered barrel. Give them depth mic readings from bolt nose and boltface and they will get you a barrel that is fit like a glove and ready to shoot after you screw it on.
Figure that the factory barrel took life from a (maybe) $10 billet of mediocre gun steel. Why spend good money after bad if you want something to be proud of?
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Got a Model 70 in .270 and want it to go .338/06?
Why the hell would you spend real money on reboring a junky factory barrel when you could go with a custom?
Really stoked on a rebore? Maybe look for a used custom barrel and at least give the guy doing the work some decent steel to work with...
Lots of barrel blanks around Brownells, Midway, benchrest supply houses, tactical suppliers. Pac-Nor does a fine job delivering a threaded and chambered barrel. Give them depth mic readings from bolt nose and boltface and they will get you a barrel that is fit like a glove and ready to shoot after you screw it on.
Figure that the factory barrel took life from a (maybe) $10 billet of mediocre gun steel. Why spend good money after bad if you want something to be proud of? How many rebores do you own?
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