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I know there are bazillions of old rechambered Mausers out there but anybody here ever build an 8mm-06 "on purpose?" I have a Remington 78 .30-06 that I bought a couple years ago for the action that has been just taking up room in the safe. I originally wanted to turn it into a 7.65x53 Argentine but I've since decided I want that cartridge in a Mauser action. I have about every other interesting cartridge under the sun already and have about decided to send the 78 to Shaw and have it barreled to 8mm-06. Already have a 8x57 and an 8mm Rem Mag as well as a .338-06, so I know it is redundant but who cares. I'll put it in a synthetic and possibly have the metal hard chromed or electroless nickeled to make an "all weather" type rig out of it. Anybody here had one built?
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Go for it. I had a mauser rechambered to 8mm-06. Never got around to building one outright. I liked it and hunted with it for a few years. Never loaded it to max. My old data for it shows 175 loadings @ 2790fps and 200 Parts @ 2610fps.
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Ditto! The 8-06AI my GS favorite cartridge! He says "that 200 NPT is the only bullet you'll ever need".
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SCgunNut, I also say...go for it...I have a Rem 700 in 8x57 and it is a great hunting rifle/round...so the .323 x 63 should be super. good luck.
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I always thought those 700 Classic 8x57 would be re-chambered to 8mm/06 all the time, but I never heard of it. You might find a take-off in 8x57.
People buy those 700 Classics and rebarrel them to 270 or 30-06 I guess?
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I had an 8mm-06 for a while. It's a great round, in fact I found it to be just as good as the .30-06!
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Yeah..., I did it! Once...  Ended up giving the rifle away...  Still have another that I purchased thinking it was a std 8x57. For some reason, I love the 8x57 and the 8x60 even more... But the 8x63? Well, I had an 8x63A.I. for a short while... And that cured me of that desire. It was an evil-kicking machine. Every standard 8x63 (8mm-06) has treated me the same way... Speaking of the M-78... I have one that some former owner converted to 9x57... GH
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I had an 8mm-06 for a while. It's a great round, in fact I found it to be just as good as the .30-06! Yeah, I have your article on it around here somewhere, good read. Bear in mind, I'm trying to accomplish NOTHING by rebarreling a .30-06 to 8mm-06. I know any gains are miniscule at best, other than scratching a mild itch. The only way a .30-06 will reside in my safe is as a donor. I have bought two over the last couple years for the actions, a Mark X that is currently under construction becoming a .376 Steyr and the Remington 78 that is the next victim here. I would get less than zero enjoyment out of hunting with a .30-06. An 8mm-06 on the other hand... As the Grand Poobah of Rifle Loonies, I'm sure you understand!
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Yeah..., I did it! Once... Ended up giving the rifle away... Still have another that I purchased thinking it was a std 8x57. For some reason, I love the 8x57 and the 8x60 even more... But the 8x63? Well, I had an 8x63A.I. for a short while... And that cured me of that desire. It was an evil-kicking machine. Every standard 8x63 (8mm-06) has treated me the same way... Speaking of the M-78... I have one that some former owner converted to 9x57... GH Glad to see you back Ed, missed your insight there for awhile during your sabbatical. I remember your 9x57. Think you killed a buck with it a couple years ago if I remember correctly. I have a Martini in 9x57R and killed a doe with it year before last. Getting proper bullets for the "9mms" can be a bit of a bugger!
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The only way a .30-06 will reside in my safe is as a donor. I have bought two over the last couple years for the actions, a Mark X that is currently under construction becoming a .376 Steyr and the Remington 78 that is the next victim here. I would get less than zero enjoyment out of hunting with a .30-06. I knew there was something that you and I had in common! I feel just about the same way about the venerable '06 (And; you can throw in the .243, and 7mm Mag, as well...) I, too, have a Wards M-720-B (Commercial Mauser) that is nearly completed by my local 'smith in .376 Steyr...  GH
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I had an 8mm-06 for a while. It's a great round, in fact I found it to be just as good as the .30-06! Yeah, I have your article on it around here somewhere, good read. Bear in mind, I'm trying to accomplish NOTHING by rebarreling a .30-06 to 8mm-06. I know any gains are miniscule at best, other than scratching a mild itch. The only way a .30-06 will reside in my safe is as a donor. I have bought two over the last couple years for the actions, a Mark X that is currently under construction becoming a .376 Steyr and the Remington 78 that is the next victim here. I would get less than zero enjoyment out of hunting with a .30-06. An 8mm-06 on the other hand... As the Grand Poobah of Rifle Loonies, I'm sure you understand! A man after my own heart! I have a .30-06 in the safe currently, but I put it over by the shotguns and muzzle loaders so none of the funk rubs off on my other rifles:D Mike
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I had an 8mm-06 for a while. It's a great round, in fact I found it to be just as good as the .30-06! If that was the VZ 24 you did the article on, I owned it for awhile after you finished with it
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If that was the VZ 24 you did the article on, I owned it for awhile after you finished with it I always wondered what happened to that rifle, I was contemplating buying it, and before I knew it, it was gone... And so it goes... IIRC, it was a sporterized mil-surp... And I am trying to leave those money pits alone, and only own commercial Mausers... GH
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I have a handed-down 338-06AI that started life as a NIB Zastava Mauser action....was going to be an 8-06AI from ER Shaw. Either way, can't lose.
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I finally got tired of "thinking" about it and just sent the Remington 78 off to be reborn as an 8mm-06. Will makes updates as progress is made...
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What makes a 175 or 200 grain bullet out of a 8mm-06 better than a 175 or 200 grain bullet out of a .30-06? Lower sectional density and bc? I thought that was an anathema around here.
Are the .323 bullets better, is there a wider selection?
I must have missed those somewhere. Who makes 'em?
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If a guy wants an 8mm-06 that is reason enough to do it. There are far worse places to land at and there are some great 8mm bullets out there. Pretty versatile cartridge for those who want something a little different.
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Ditto! The 8-06AI my GS favorite cartridge! +2 He says "that 200 NPT is the only bullet you'll ever need". [/quote]
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I had an 8mm-06 for a while. It's a great round, in fact I found it to be just as good as the .30-06! Yeah, I have your article on it around here somewhere, good read. Bear in mind, I'm trying to accomplish NOTHING by rebarreling a .30-06 to 8mm-06. I know any gains are miniscule at best, other than scratching a mild itch. The only way a .30-06 will reside in my safe is as a donor. I have bought two over the last couple years for the actions, a Mark X that is currently under construction becoming a .376 Steyr and the Remington 78 that is the next victim here. I would get less than zero enjoyment out of hunting with a .30-06. An 8mm-06 on the other hand... As the Grand Poobah of Rifle Loonies, I'm sure you understand! A man after my own heart! I have a .30-06 in the safe currently, but I put it over by the shotguns and muzzle loaders so none of the funk rubs off on my other rifles:D Mike It is good to see others without the 30-06itis. Not downing the cartridge or its performance, but if I see another 30-06 thread or article I will puke.
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What makes a 175 or 200 grain bullet out of a 8mm-06 better than a 175 or 200 grain bullet out of a .30-06? Lower sectional density and bc? I thought that was an anathema around here.
Are the .323 bullets better, is there a wider selection?
I must have missed those somewhere. Who makes 'em? A .30-06 is like a butthole, EVERYBODY has one, ergo, I don't. Besides, remember which category this post is in. There's no "need" for 98% of the stuff built and discussed here...
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