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I was cleaning my new Savage 99F and my old [to me] 99EG [.308 and .300] today, when I ran into something that I didn't realize before.
My 1954 Savage 99EG has scope mounts drilled and tapped, as well as installed. I was putting new rings on and realized that the front scope mount is not centered.
This is not off enough to stop a scope from being adjusted to be accurate: but enough that it is off by a degree or so.
That explains why the scope I removed from it was SOOOO far to the right when I set it up on a .22lr rifle!
I have put that original scope back [Bushnell ScopeChief 4X with CommandPost] and will be zeroing it back in.
I can live with it. It was VERY accurate when I first shot it [before removing that scope], so I know that I can dial it in and make it accurate again.
HOWEVER, I was wondering if it is possible [and safe] to have a gunsmith fill those holes [weld up] and then re-drill/tap to make it centered? Or would this be too much heat to the front area, causing it to affect the temper of the steel?
Again, I can live with it, but I'd prefer to fix it if there is NO downside [other than cost].
Thoughts? Thanks!
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What is possible to do is often not the right thing to do.
I'd leave as is, or worst case consider a 1-piece base and settle for one good screw in the front.
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I'd do your welding and redrilling on the mounts and leave the gun alone.
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I wouldn't screw with it. Since you know that a scope can be zeroed with the holes the way they are let it go. To correct it you'll spend a nice chunk of change and end up with a rifle that you can mount and zero a scope on. You've already got that.
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Another option would be to use Burris Signature Zee rings with inserts used to align scopes. I've used them on a couple of rifles that I didn't have enough scope adjustment to zero them in. They work great.
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+1 on the Burris rings. They will make up for a multitude of little problems. The simple solution is often the best.
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Off center on the 99's is common. The bit skated on the hardened receiver. Likely done by hand or in a cheap press with a plain and to long bit, without taking the hardening out of the spot first. My Grandfathers, now my sons, is the same. Still kills deer.
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Two previously points are spot on. #1 - Burris Z rings with offset inserts work very well. #2 - Have the holes in the mounts tig welded in, and redrill the mounts. I have done this once, and scope was dammm near dead on when windage adjustments are -0- centered. But you must have access to welder/machines and do some precise measurements/layout.
Choice #1 is the easiest, pretty much no chance of screwing anything else up or taking mucho time. Just my 2 cents.
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I had a 99 that was non factory tapped and the front ring was drilled 3 degrees off top dead center.
My solution was to use weaver 2 piece bases. I had to make my own front mount from a larger one piece weaver base with a similar radius. This allowed me to drill the holes 3 degrees off top dead center to match the rifle. Worked like a champ and shot like a house of fire and I shot my biggest whitetail ever with it that year.................and that's the truth..........
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leupold or redfield base and rings are the best way I've found to deal with off center 99's a very common problem ,the rear ring can be offset to just where you need it.
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Both Weaver and Millett make windage adjustable rings. I have a set of Millett Angle-Loc rings on one of my 99s that a one eyed drunk gun plumber drilled in a dark barn on a cold day...
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Thanks all!
I'll look into a Millet windage adjustable ring set. Hadn't thought of that!
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Thanks all!
I'll look into a Millet windage adjustable ring set. Hadn't thought of that! The Millet rings are not anywhere close to the robustness of the Burris Signature Zee with offset inserts. A few dollars more but nothing painful.
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