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Here is what you need. A short compact 375 H&H, built on a winchester action. Wieghts just over 7lbs with scope. The same configuration in 9.3x62 would also be a great choice. I have a 9.3 scout built on a p17 enfield and at 8.5lbs isn't too bad for a walk around gun.
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I suppose the term affordable means different things to different people. But if I were going to buy a new 375 H&H, it would be a stainless steel Ruger #1. It will handle most any critter in most any weather, plus scope rings will come in the box. I'd probably scope it out, but would be tempted to sight in a New England peep on the rig too. I'm not huge person, but not tiny either (6', 210lbs), but I'll admit I don't care for discomfort on the bench, and in my opinion recoil and discomfort may be two different things. My Ruger #1 in .338 Win Mag. is actually more comfortable to shoot than the Ruger M77 I used to own in 7mm Rem. Mag. That #1 shoves me back decently, but doesn't hurt. My 7Mag left my facial area a little tender from all the slaps.
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If he ever wants to go to Africa, the 375 would cover a lot of ground. And, it's probably the most "shootable" big bore, if the 375 qualifies there. I think getting competent with a 375 would be a pretty good thing.
No, I wouldn't use it on whitetails, but you could. Heck in many states you're limited to 72 cal slugs or premium sabots putting out 3500 pounds of energy. I call that over kill ha!
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I have the exact gun with the NECG in 416 Rigby and it is beautiful. But, in 375 I would prefer a bolt gun with magazine extension. More manufacturers make a good 375 and ammo is easier to come by.
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375 remington in the scout configuration in a McMillan stock.
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Seems like sound reasoning for your ideas on a 375. I have to ask though, how do you like that peep sight on your .416? I'm a scope short right now and to save a little money (and to be different) I'm thinking of getting a New England sight for my #1RSI in 7x57. I know this is a subjective thing, but how far are you comfortable shooting with that set up on your Ruger? Are you using the Ruger factory bead up front?
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My main reason for putting the NECG's on both my No. 1's is that I tried all kinds of ring and scope combos on both. Mostly low power fixed and variables. Even bought extended rings to get the eye relief right.
What I found was that I just hated the guns with scopes on them. The eye pieces always covered the chamber, getting in the way when loading. And, I just think they look better without a scope.
My main concern with the NECG was that putting it out on the rear ring position puts it forward of any true receiver sight. When I got it on the gun, I found that was not a problem. I can pick up the front sight easily.
As for the front bead - they are stock. I have a Trijicon night sight on the front blade of my Dawson sights for a Glock 21. It's a great look and really helps. I'd like to see NECG offer a trijicon front post for the Number 1. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
As for shooting - scopes are always going to be more precise. However, peeps can be too if you know the bead substention value at 100 yards. If the bead subtends 12 inches at 100 yards it's like using the duplex scope reticle as a range finder and for hold over.
Personally I'd limit myself to game animals at 300 yards. But for varmints and rocks and dirt clods - anything goes! Ha! Did some amazing shooting with a peep sighted Savage Scout in 308. It takes practice and knowledge of the gear.
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2 nice rifles there!!
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where has (need) gotten in the way of a new gun..If it were me I'd buy a ruger77 in .375HH If you wants a .375hh by all means buy one...The small price of a new gun is seriously overshadowed by the price of an Alaskan hunt...the .325wizzum will work fine..but the .375HH is a true classic......Heck a .30-06 would work for arguments sake... Robert.....Or even a .35whelen chambered in a BLR <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.. Just take your 325 wizzum and shoot straight. If you don't care for recoil, don't get a big gun! I've dabbled with big and bigger guns, and have seen the light that while they are good for grins at the range, I don't care for them in the field, and it's not that I don't shoot them just as well as more reasonable rounds. Great point my friend. Maybe my 325WSM is enough "juice" for anything in North America. I suppose I could take the stand that my 270WSM and my 325WSM are all I need. ============================
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The best bargain I have seen recently in a .375 H&H is in the CDNN catalog. Superior Grade Safari Mauser Charles Daly Custom Rifle (made by Zastava). The rifle is a special limited edition: oil finished Turkish walnut stock, rose wood grip cap, hand checkering, monte carlo stock with cheek piece. The blue metal is high polished, cross bolt, hammer forged 24" barrel, and of course the action is forged steel Mauser. Trigger is adjustable. The bottom metal is steel with hinged floorplate. Price is $569.99.
If you don't know CDNN mostly sells close-puts and discontinued models.
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Is that a 20" barrel on your Winchester? It looks very handy.
I have a BRNO 602 in .375 H&H that I am having shortened to 20". It'll make a great coastal BC hunting and working rifle.
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Yes sir 20" barrel. I haven't noticed that much loss in velosity and it is much handier than a 24" barrel in the thick brush.
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That Boondocks place still has them for $599, but they are 20" barrels and weigh about 6.5# ! Not me...
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Here's a picture of my BRNO 602 .375 H&H. It's a true Mauser action, controlled round feed, non-rotating extractor, excellent express sights. You can buy them used in Canada for $700-800 in very good condition. I have shortened the barrel on mine to 20" as it will be used for dealing with problem bears at close range in Northern Canada. http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/pbgeologist/bearguns0005_1.jpg
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Ok.....great suggestions.....
I have researched CZ and they seem to be impressive, especially for the price.
I gotta tell you....I am a little intrigued with the 416 Rigby in the CZ.....
What do you guys think? Get One! I've used 3 (.270,9.3X62,.458 Win.). I've not found it necessary to 'fix'em up'. No feeding,ejection or accuracy problems. Plus if you hunt massive bears a CRF is the only way to go.
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Ditto.
CZs are fantastic rifles. My next rimfire will be a 452, and I may just break down and get a CZ in .375 H&H or 9.3x62, too.
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My go to big gun is a CZ in 416 Rigby. Wonderful weapon.
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Speaking of affordable, I just scored a .375 Model 70 brl used. Its for the Classic action - newer version of the CRF. Now looking for an action to screw onto the barrel. Need a magnum bolt face, long action. Affordable is the word.
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Found an action, should work if they can come up with a magazine box and follower for the .375.
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I was in the local shoppe yesterday chattin' about using a standard magnum action ( 300WM or 7RM) and the smith (young fella just startin' out ... does some nice work) showed me one he just got done with in 375 H&H. Said the standard mag box and follower are fine, they were already at 3.6". Had a nice set-up looked and balanced very nicely!! However, he said he wouldn't label it a DGR since he didn't machine away part of the rear bridge in M70 express style, which made it a more dextorious (not a real word <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />) process in the event of a rapid reload. He had it for sale but outta my price range.
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