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Are the dots, mil dots? What are there spacing 2 mil etc? Or are they just reference points that need to be calibrated to an individual load? I can't seem to find anything in the Leupold brochure.
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IIRC the first dot is 2.2 MOA, the second 4.8 and the tip of the post is 7.8 MOA.
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I don't think they list the specs for the 6X's, when I emailed them about them I think they told me they were the same as the 7X's
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Thanks, just didn't know that it pertained to the fixed X scopes as well. This needs to be checked in the field but calculated my 30-06, 200gr NAB's at 2725 and a 240yd zero (flight of bullet is only slightly higher than 3") is first dot 328yds, 2nd dot 417, and tip of post 515 yds. Question , is the dot 1 mil?
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OK, got it! by calculation the dot is 1.06 mil at 6X. My load (calculated) zero 240 yds, will be 1st dot 313yds, 2nd dot 393 yds, tip of post 478 yds.
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2.2 MOA is not 1.06 mils.
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I ran your numbers with JBM. Are you at sea level? I couldn't come up with any rifle/enviro scenarios where I'd use a 240 yard zero with your load. Not trying to criticize, but it seems like something is off with your calcs, or I am missing something.
I've been using 6x scopes with LRD on several rifles. My preference is to set zero to minimize error at 500 yards. For big game, the errors should be small with the LRD to 500y. And I keep it simple with dots & picket representing 100y increments with acceptable error.
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Are the dots, mil dots? What are there spacing 2 mil etc? Or are they just reference points that need to be calibrated to an individual load? I can't seem to find anything in the Leupold brochure. Its the same as the B&C reticle, just no windage bars. EXBAL or most any other program will give you the drops. IE, a 7/08 with a 120 or 140gr, zeroed at 200, will put the next dot at 300 or so, then 400, and 450.
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Fur,
I ran your numbers with JBM. Are you at sea level? I couldn't come up with any rifle/enviro scenarios where I'd use a 240 yard zero with your load. Not trying to criticize, but it seems like something is off with your calcs, or I am missing something.
I've been using 6x scopes with LRD on several rifles. My preference is to set zero to minimize error at 500 yards. For big game, the errors should be small with the LRD to 500y. And I keep it simple with dots & picket representing 100y increments with acceptable error.
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Fur,
I ran your numbers with JBM. Are you at sea level? I couldn't come up with any rifle/enviro scenarios where I'd use a 240 yard zero with your load. Not trying to criticize, but it seems like something is off with your calcs, or I am missing something.
I've been using 6x scopes with LRD on several rifles. My preference is to set zero to minimize error at 500 yards. For big game, the errors should be small with the LRD to 500y. And I keep it simple with dots & picket representing 100y increments with acceptable error.
Jason
I'm at 2500 feet , used Berger ballistic calculator. I should say is the dot 1moa, 3.6 " at 100 yds? On the Leupold site I took the values from 7x and calculated them to 6X.
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I should say is the dot 1moa, 3.6 " at 100 yds? On the Leupold site I took the values from 7x and calculated them to 6X.
1 MOA is not 3.6" at 100 yards. There is no calculating from 7x to 6x. What specifically are you asking? Do you want to know how wide the dots are? Or the distance between dots?
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Does the dot cover 1" at 100yds? The Leupold write up on this gives the subtension sizes at the highest powers, 6X is not listed, but the reticle size does not change in a fixed power, therefore the dots will cover more at the lower power as compared to a higher power, say 7X.
I want to know the distance in MOA between the dots and the size of the dot , in MOA, at 100yds.
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The 6x reticle subtensions are the same amount as other models at their highest power.
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Respectively , that is not what the brochure implies, with me reading it So I calculated the values for 6X. http://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BAS_Inst_Manual_17July12.pdfIts way below zero here so I will field test when weather is better, just seeing what I should end up with as this is a departure from the normal variable power scopes fro me.
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The subtenaions are exactly the same on every scope at the highest power on variables and on fixed power scopes. The dots are going to be around 1 moa in diameter on fixed 6's.
The first dot is 2.19 MOA from center.
Second is 4.80 MOA from center.
Bottom post is 7.82 MOA from center.
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Yes, distance from center will remain the same in MOA. Dot size will vary with power, but at 6X the dot will be 1.06 MOA. which is close to 1 as you can get. I have it straightened out now, I think, thanks for hanging in there on this. And , good advice on setting my zero to jive with easy to remember yardages as related to the dots and post. I don't want to have bullet flight higher than 3". I think the 6X with the dots will be better for my purpose than the 3.5x10 I took off. I have a 6X42 heavy duplex on another rifle, 9.3x66 Sako that I use for big moose, but the LR reticle will be good on the 30-06.
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