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George, the 280ai is a tremendous round but no matter what you do, it is not a 7 RM, and no, I am not a fan of the RM but facts are facts, also check the recoil calculators as everyone talks about the 280ai and non magnum recoil, the difference is much less then you think.
As is the difference between the 280ai and the 7rm. A difference, sure. A realistic difference for his or my purposes? *shrug* The 280ai is just cool, so it gets my vote. Any jagaloon can slum a rem mag 
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George, the 280ai is a tremendous round but no matter what you do, it is not a 7 RM, and no, I am not a fan of the RM but facts are facts, also check the recoil calculators as everyone talks about the 280ai and non magnum recoil, the difference is much less then you think.
As is the difference between the 280ai and the 7rm. A difference, sure. A realistic difference for his or my purposes? *shrug* The 280ai is just cool, so it gets my vote. Any jagaloon can slum a rem mag Evidently, any 'jagaloon' can slum a 280 AI, too... Tanner
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George, the 280ai is a tremendous round but no matter what you do, it is not a 7 RM, and no, I am not a fan of the RM but facts are facts, also check the recoil calculators as everyone talks about the 280ai and non magnum recoil, the difference is much less then you think.
As is the difference between the 280ai and the 7rm. A difference, sure. A realistic difference for his or my purposes? *shrug* The 280ai is just cool, so it gets my vote. Any jagaloon can slum a rem mag Evidently, any 'jagaloon' can slum a 280 AI, too... Tanner I thought Jabroni's slummed the 280ai and utilitarian's love the 7mm mag.
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George, the 280ai is a tremendous round but no matter what you do, it is not a 7 RM, and no, I am not a fan of the RM but facts are facts, also check the recoil calculators as everyone talks about the 280ai and non magnum recoil, the difference is much less then you think.
As is the difference between the 280ai and the 7rm. A difference, sure. A realistic difference for his or my purposes? *shrug* The 280ai is just cool, so it gets my vote. Any jagaloon can slum a rem mag I do not disagree and if you look at all the 7mm's discussed and the op's intended purpose, is there any real difference with any of them. I'm thinking about thinning the herd a little bit and could probably do everything I need with a 7-08 but when you get up to the 154's and 160 class bullets the 280 rem pushes them where I like around 2800-2900+/- fps. I can make a 280 a 7-08 velocity wise but can not make a 7-08 a 280 so really thinking about this one.
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Any chance either one of your 7-08's is on a savage long also?
W Nope both are on Savage short actions both have 22inch tubes and both shoot really well, 120 BTs at 3050fps for deer and such, 140 accubonds also shoot well and have used them some for hogs and deer,, I have only shot one 7mm-08 past 400 but it shoots as well as I can out to there, only running a 10x scope on it so things get a little small out there. The other 7mm-08 runs a 6x and it's what I hunt with most of the time around here. This is a fun thread and the feedback is good info,,,,, 1 in 9 for the heavies,,, still thinking on the chamber
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According to Lony at Hornady longer necks allow barrels to last up to twice as long. He bases that on the load development and benchrest competition with a .22-243 and a .22-6Rem.
Is that important?
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Really if I can get a chambering that does with the 160-175 grain class of 7mm bullets what the 7mm-08 does with the 120-140 class of bullets I will be a happy camper,,,, I think my 3 original choices will be close enough to that to not need the 7mmMag,,, Just want more umphhh for the heavy bullets,,,
1 in 9 for the heavies,,, 24 inch sporter tube,,still thinking on the chamber
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"According to Lony at Hornady longer necks allow barrels to last up to twice as long. He bases that on the load development and benchrest competition with a .22-243 and a .22-6Rem.
Is that important?"
Probably not for me,, I'll put max, a hundred rounds a year through this one, perhaps more if I just love shooting it,,, but I have to make a trip to shoot past 300 yards.
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280AI's fill a nonexistent void between the 280 and the 7mag. Gimme the "big" 7 and some 180 VLD's please.
Of the cartridges up for debate, I really like the 7 saum. You do know the 7mm SAUM and the 280AI have the same case capacity? I'll take the SAUM over 7RM anyday, that is, if I can keep enough brass for it. Hard to find of late. You do know the 7 saum is in a short action and the 280ai in a long, right? Given a long action, gimme a vanilla 280 or a step it up to the 7 mag. The AI is gay.
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Seeing as how I own a pair of 7SAUM's, the answer would be yes. Brass may be hard to find, but it don't cost two bucks a pop and I don't have to form anything. Belts suck and blow. I'll give up 100fps gladly to not be bothered with 'em.
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What's the issue with the belt? I PFLR all my hunting brass anyway, regardless of chambering, so it's as if the belt isn't even there...
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I never said anything about brass availability, nor the pricing of it. The belt "issue" is making mountains out of molehills.
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..... The belt "issue" is making mountains out of molehills. I'll say.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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280AI's fill a nonexistent void between the 280 and the 7mag. Gimme the "big" 7 and some 180 VLD's please.
Of the cartridges up for debate, I really like the 7 saum. Actually the the 280 AI is a 7 mag with engineering to eliminate some of the so often heard about inherent troubles that the 7 mag comes with. On the right day my 7 mag shoots incredible! My 280 AI shoots incredible any day of the week and in any weather condition. For me that's a huge plus Shod
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The day of the week and weather makes your 7mag shoot like crap?
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280AI's fill a nonexistent void between the 280 and the 7mag. Gimme the "big" 7 and some 180 VLD's please.
Of the cartridges up for debate, I really like the 7 saum. Actually the the 280 AI is a 7 mag with engineering to eliminate some of the so often heard about inherent troubles that the 7 mag comes with. On the right day my 7 mag shoots incredible! My 280 AI shoots incredible any day of the week and in any weather condition. For me that's a huge plus Shod I dunno the cause but I agree with you on the 7RM being hot and cold.
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The day of the week and weather makes your 7mag shoot like crap? Believe what he is trying to say is that the rifle has a certain 'time' of the month where it does not perform as well. Mood swings abound and such. 
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The day of the week and weather makes your 7mag shoot like crap? Believe what he is trying to say is that the rifle has a certain 'time' of the month where it does not perform as well. Mood swings abound and such. LOL!
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