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It isn't just nonwesterners who do this every year. In Colorado it happens about 10-12 times a year. Also saw it happen in Montana too(guy from Wisconsin). We usually joke about it being a cheese head (my only case with one of them was mistaking a deer for an elk...and it was big deer too), but guys who live here in Colorado do it too. And not just recent transplants.
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A few years ago, a woman on a horse near Sun Valley, ID watched a guy in a pickup stop and shoot a moose cow and calf from the road. She rode up and asked him about it and he assured her that he had tags. She believed him and rode on without getting even a description of the pickup beyond the color. He left both moose to rot. They never caught him.
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For someone from NY. Anything with 4 legs looks like an elk.
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NYC maybe. Not us Upstaters. Iv'e hunted out west many times and never killed a moose, horse, mule or anything else mistaking it for an elk. Never got an elk either though!
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Sorry, I was thinking of the big city. I can't imagine any real hunter mistaken a llama for an elk.
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It isn't just nonwesterners who do this every year. In Colorado it happens about 10-12 times a year. Also saw it happen in Montana too(guy from Wisconsin). We usually joke about it being a cheese head (my only case with one of them was mistaking a deer for an elk...and it was big deer too), but guys who live here in Colorado do it too. And not just recent transplants. Dam kid up North shot a cow Elk the other year thinking it was a really big doe!
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Probably not rare since Colorado devotes a page and a pdf fact sheet to the issue on their website. We also go over the differences in detail (with photos) in the Hunter Ed class.
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about 6 years ago a IDFG investigator approached our moose camp and stood just talking with us for a while. after about 30 minutes he came into the fire circle and sat down to a cup.
all this time I was wondering what was going on. He finally told us he was investigating a 48" bull kill that had been left to rot. still makes me sick just thinking about it. the party that was camped next to us had come in from hunting a few days before and packed up and left fast. Elk season was running at the same time. turns out these folks had come up from a city and had spent thousands on outfitting themselves with the latest and best equiptment. 4wheelers with zero miles on them etc. they just forgot to learn the difference between a Elk and a moose.
22000.00 fine loss of hunting rights etc. one sad mess that seems not to be isolated. by the way the shooter was a woman, but her nimrod of a husband told her to shoot. for all they knew it could have been a camel.(or a LLAMA) I remember as a teen, being in the ranger station in Lowman ID. picking up a firewood permit or something in the mid 80's and a call came in over the radio from one of the rangers in the field saying he had come across an elk hunter who shot a moose up in Bear Valley. The ranger brought it to the guys attention, the hunter was convinced he had shot an elk. Never heard what ended up happening, but I remember it clearly.
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Partially in the poor guy's defense, in profile in the shade, a llama could easily be mistaken for a cow elk. However, once it's on the ground, all similarity is gone. To gut and load it in the truck is pathetic.
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Partially in the poor guy's defense, in profile in the shade, a llama could easily be mistaken for a cow elk. Whomever, once it's on the ground, all similarity is gone. To gut and load it in the truck is pathetic. The good news is, I have it on good authority that llamas are good to eat. 
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Yes, they do taste good. I read that it was a feral llama and he didn't break any laws shooting it...other than the laws of common sense. He's paid dearly for that infraction, though.
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This thread is hilarious!
How could anyone ever mistake a moose for an elk?
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Back when I first moved to Colorado in the mid-1980s, moose were rare, with just a couple of small herds up around North Park. A 70 year-old man from Minnesota, hunting elk, shot a moose by mistake. I was still young enough that I was thinking, "What's a 70 year-old man doing hunting elk."
Having had my first elk hunt after reaching the ripe old age of 70 this year, I realize that age had nothing to do with it.
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This thread is hilarious!
How could anyone ever mistake a moose for an elk?
I don't remember the date and the particular quake but several years back, after an earthquake in the LA region. The power was off. People late at night started calling the local police asking why the stars were so bright, if the quake had affected the stars making them brighten, and what the strange glowing cloud was in the sky.(Milky Way) People who live their whole lives in big cities are, well, "sad" is the word that comes to mind.
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Part of this, at least I think... is due to the fact so many read that you may only get a glimpse of an elk or whatever and you better be fast on the trigger.
IMHO thats POOR advice when we preach in safety, make sure you ID the target etc...
I let a muley go once, over 200 inches( it was killed a few days later) because I could not get a clear shot at it. Could have shot at it or shot it somewhere probably, but patience generally can lead to the cleanest kills... and the chance of tag soup, but who really cares enough to risk killing the wrong animal, or wounding one...
As to all the resident folks calling the NR folks the problem, you better look hard at your locals too, NR are not the problem.
The problem is uneducated folks, they come in R and NR variety all the time and simply due to numbers of tags, the R will have more violations than the NR....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Lived in Pennsylvania most of my life and it seemed every year someone would shoot an elk in mistake for a deer. Never could figure that one out.
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mudhen you look elk-capable to me....  
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This thread is hilarious!
How could anyone ever mistake a moose for an elk?
They're as different as cows and horses but, sad to say, this happens all the time. I don't know if guys go hunting without knowing what their game looks like or if they get some kind of mental block that tells them to shoot anything that moves. It's scary.
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