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sectional density (more a applicable to lead bullets) and BC

Two very important question?

Rate of twist?

Will it need blue tape?

Maybe Nosler can cerakoat the whole barrel blue. That would make it more better than everyone else's widget.

I personally have always wanted a 264 Mag. I tried a 257 WB and side bt side they are almost indistinguishable, but this new one sounds like quite a cartridge. It's gunna cost you in barrel life and $$ to go this fast though. At what point is enough just enough?

most likely 1:9 or what ever deal they worked out with pac-nor.

Blue tape???? Do not know what you're talking about

For a fella who has an old mag action laying around and is willing to run this at moderate pressure, I can see it as a fun "out west" rifle project. Launch a 127 LRX at 3150ish and enjoy plenty of ballistic performance and extended barrel life.

Very happy if that brass ever lands on a shelf. Other than that the ? is why not a 338 or a 25? The 26 has coyotied itself off a cliff since the dawn of time.... The 7 is covered X a billion. 30 has been beat to death. There is nice room for a 2.5" case w/capacity for a 338 and the whole world would enjoy a 25...

If they want Gee Whiz numbers whats a 25 xxx look like in that case?

Dunno....

W

I think the .257 caliber gets put aside anymore , because of the limited number of bullets with a decent B.C. while 6.5s have a large selection of bullets with B.C.s over .500 and some in the .600 range. Otherwise .007 of an inch aint much difference! Just my opinion.

I get that but this is all handload stuff anyway really so bullet choice while limited is still viable for the 25.
Can you imagine if they named it 6.5? DRT....


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Bingo and I do have a soft spot for the 25 caliber! That might change with an introduction of a .257 LRAB....

Going by the listed case capacity in H2O, as a 25cal it'd be just a fraction greater sized than a 257STW.

I think this case capacity requires at-least a 7mm ahead of it. A 338 is a natural, but recoil will hurt many buyers.
Cheers...
Con

The ONLY advantage, as the long range target shooters have found, in the 6.5 is that it has less recoil than the bigger cousins. The heaviest bullet that you will find (without resorting to some custom stuff) is a 140 (discount the poor BC 142 SMK) grain VLD or similar. The best one out there is probably the Berger hybrid at .618.

Jump up to the 7mm and you have a BC of .674 with the 180 grainer.

Next up the ladder in both recoil and BC is the 230 grain VLD with a BC of .743 and finally, the 300 grain OMG is reported to have a BC of .818.

If you go to specialty bullets in 338, 375 and 408 you can get BCs that approach or exceed 1.000.

The 6.5 is a fantastic caliber in that it is a near perfect balance of recoil, utility and bullet weight. When talking about long range shooting bigger is ALWAYS better. It's just at some point you lose the utility that you want.

I think the 6.5s are better suited at 3200 fps and under. If you want to push a bullet that caliber faster, you might as well go on up to the 7mms. I notice a considerable increase in recoil in shooting a 7WSM with 180s compared to my 6.5 with 140s. I also notice a considerable increase in shooting my 340 with 250s.

There is no free lunch. I think Nosler has a dumb idea!

This is easily done in a .264 wm with the correct throat. My 26" barrel runs 140's at 3260 with a mild load of retumbo. My guess is also a variation of the 7lrm or even on a saum case.

If you can get 3400 fps out of a 264 Win mag and 140s you are caressing an IED.

3400 with 130's as nosler is advertising. Was giving an example of the 140's .

Nosler is doing a marketing job, but I wonder if they did their Market Research? More powder = diminished ROI, and bore life, I am sure they know that, but wonder what gave them the idea this will be a success?

What will a 7 RM or WSM not do in an accurate rifle with good bullets as far as 99% of anyone has business shooting? Really a 260 class round will take 95% of the game killed in NA, at the ranges 95% are taken, IMHO.

99% of gun owners wont shoot out a barrel and wont know 400 from 650... I am real happy someone got up and made a nice case in a medium caliber so its easier to neck anyway you want instead of trying to come down from 338 or such.
Capacity is on the big side but could be worse. Brass wont cost $2 I hope but should be of quality. They are certainly pimping their own guns with their own cartridge. I'm good with that. Just as long as brass makes it out the door they can print whatever they want.
Shame it's a 260. I think it would have some real market value as a 7 even though that horse is dead.

W

Gee.....I wasn't there....but I bet the same conversations went on around the Hot Stove league when the 270 Winchester was introduced.

"It'll never catch on!.....what's it for???...the 30/06 is mo betta!!!!"....I can hear it all now.

Until a few backed off 200-400 yards with Lyman 48's and 2.5X scopes, and started whacking things.

Today seems those in the know love 6.5's.....and many today grow faint and would rather stay home if they can't hunt with a bullet the BC of which isn't in the .600's.

Think about it,and the commercial lineup does not contain anything in the way of a high performance 6.5 other than the 264WM,while we are up to our eyeballs in 7mm's and 30's....McWhorters website shows lots of 6.5's but most are not factory rounds......seems this will do the 264 WM one better,and be about like their 6.5 Weatherby.And we have the powders for it along with the bullets.

Plus not everyone wants to spin turrets to get to 400-450 yards;nor is there always time, but that flat trajectory is another tool in the arsenal.

I think it's a swell idea!

Exactly. Citing the maximum PBR without giving the size of the target is an interesting way to go.

Anyone seen/have picture of this new cartridge?
129's at 3400, whats the catch? There is no free lunch, that kind of velocity in that caliber means short barrel life or are they using a looong barrel to get that velocity?

What a bunch of whiners "short barrel life" so what,Douglas,Shilen,Shaw,Pac-Nor etc.. will be making barrels on Monday,Tuesday etc.. The cartridge is not even in production and already people are predicting failure,no one seen one,let alone SHOT one.