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So...where DID the middle class go?

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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....

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So...where DID the middle class go?

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With a rattle a tat
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Turn on the boob tube
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Where'd all the good people go?
I've been changing channels
I don't see them on the TV shows
Where'd all the good people go?
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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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The wife and I were just talking about that over supper tonight.


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Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Right its corporatism...been that for a long time...and it just eats away at the nation's wealth.


No it is cronyism, the ill of government.


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Study nations that have avidly gone into "redistribution" of wealth. No one has their standard of living raised. In actual practice a vast majority of the citizens have their assets compressed to a lower level. The elite, political, or whatever, remains the same or more often have their standards raised substantially.

Gee, can we draw any parallels here? i.e. The old Soviet Union, Cuba, Zimbabwe, et al.


I believe the article indicates this is happening under capitalism now.

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It's unavoidable, Sycamore. So few (here and elsewhere) understand what the meaning of "Structural Unemployment" really means for us, going forward. And,,,it's here to stay, no policies, etc. will EVER change it. That be fact.

A good read on similar to what you posted here at the onset was written a while back and is named "The Future of Work". By Jeremy Rifkin. Toffler's "Third Wave" is another. Scary schitt in a way.

This is gonna affect emerging folks even more so than us, places like China, India, etc. One example is a car/truck factory in India that employed 10,000 people. Built a new, modern, automated one right next to it that has 1200 employees and with 30% more output of higher quality roadies.

Then, there's always the old favorite read named "The Bell Curve". Problem with that book is that too few have the needed comprehension to read it and understand what the numbers within imply. The chasm between the haves and the have nots will only widen and deepen until another Huey P. Long comes along. Bammy is close enough on that one.

Good subject, Sycamore.


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We need to cut an inch or two off the pricks of the few and give to the many, Sycamore.


I guess reading comprehension is not on the MCAT? blush

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We need equality. Those guys with big ones have an unfair advantage and should be cut back.

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Originally Posted by Sycamore
So...where DID the middle class go?

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Try opening your own business and paying people to deal with .gov red tape and you will see where it went.


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So...where DID the middle class go?

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Try opening your own business and paying people to deal with .gov red tape and you will see where it went.


yep....live someplace with nearly 30% unemployment and i cant get anyone to apply for our ad sales position.....they would rather make less sitting on their arse and being handed money from .gov.....or if they have a bunch of kids i cant match what .gov is paying them to sit on their arse....

meanwhile i have to fight to even find a insurance program to offer my employees(we are one of the lucky ones that will still be able to offer our employees insurance next year).....thankfully our plan is half arse tied to the state employee plan so aslong as the state employees have insurance offered them so should we be able to buy into it....


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My brother has 16 employees in Texas. Humana has just notified him they will be no longer be doing health coverage for small businesses in Texas. He will have to use Ocare or BCBullChitt and the cost will rise from $350,000 per to about $700,000 per year, which is much more than he makes out of it.

if he doesn't provide the care the better oilfield employees can go to big companies to get it.

O Care is designed to put small co's out of business.

So, open up, have fun and get rich working 7 days a week, Sycem.


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Originally Posted by eyeball
My brother has 16 employees in Texas. Humana has just notified him they will be no longer be doing health coverage for small businesses in Texas. He will have to use Ocare or BCBullChitt and the cost will rise from $350,000 per to about $700,000 per year, which is much more than he makes out of it.

if he doesn't provide the care the better oilfield employees can go to big companies to get it.

O Care is designed to put small co's out of business.

So, open up, have fun and get rich working 7 days a week, Sycem.


Perfect example of regulation causing industry consolidation (income inequality) while directly destroying the middle class.


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I'll take that distraction as 'I concede the point'.


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Income inequality is in the minds of those that are susceptible to penis envy.


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Income inequality is in the minds of those that are susceptible to penis envy.


pretty much.....ive always been at the lower end of the scale and sure havent thought it was anyone elses problem to deal with but my own.....sure in the [bleep] dont "deserve" to be given money out of someone elses pocket just cause they were more successful than me.....

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Precisely. Also the "middle class" always has the possibility of moving UP, just like the more affluent can (and do) go down. The problems nowadays is (in addition to the obvious) are also the fact LOTS of people in the middle class want freeshit for little or no effort AND they want to get paid wages they don't deserve.


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Originally Posted by 280shooter
I'll take that distraction as 'I concede the point'.


Did you go to phlebotomy school with Eyeball? That WAS the point of the OP. blush

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Originally Posted by eyeball
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We need to cut an inch or two off the pricks of the few and give to the many, Sycamore.


I guess reading comprehension is not on the MCAT? blush

Sycamore


We need equality. Those guys with big ones have an unfair advantage and should be cut back.


Or don't they require the MCAT in Grenada? grin

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Originally Posted by Sycamore
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I'll take that distraction as 'I concede the point'.


Did you go to phlebotomy school with Eyeball? That WAS the point of the OP. blush

Sycamore

No, the point that you attempted to foist on us was that the Democrats don't own the class envy game.


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I read on this very site, all the time, that "poor people" sit around all day, and cash checks for tons of money, whilst the rest of us have to work our asses off.

And those poor people go to Hawaii with their EBT cards from Texas! Dammit!


If that ain't class envy, I don't know what is.

You are sitting around, belly aching that a person in another class is spending money they haven't earned.

And that in a more equitable society, income would be based on (something else)

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