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How and why does this reflect on SCI? Glad they caught thm, and it sounds like they got off easy. A bad outfitter, poor ethics of the hunters, etc... SCI was just one of those taken in by their lies.

That is most likely the case, especially since the SCI award was being presented around the same time as the offense occurred.

You are right, SCI did not really do anything wrong, but you have to agree they were not happy to find their example of sportsmanship was something very different from what they thought.

And it embarrassed them.

As someone else mentioned above and I agree that giving awards to folks for globe-trotting to stack up trophies might just be a recipe for being embarrassed repeatedly. The entire award program stuff brings out the worst in folks.

And really does little to "honor" the animal.

Absolutely.

I am not too big on the award stuff either. Agreed. SCI does a lot of good, and the title of the post tries to take away from SCI for no tractable offense.

It ticks me off that this kind of thing (game violations) EVER happens, regardless of who it is at the end of the violation.

Not sure I agree with the concept the title tries to take away from SCI for no offense... They were embarrassed by awarding someone ABOUT TO get caught for being unworthy.

I am not suggesting, nor does the title, that SCI did anything particularly wrong... Simply that they were embarrassed by being associated with a negative newsmaker and had their good name brought under the microscope.

hmmmm


should would be interested in hearing the nitty gritty on this gig if it ever comes to light.

like bearhuntr, I too am interested in the size of the bear. Have to wonder if it was an incredible specimen to make them feel like they had to take it that day. Must have been some incredible temptation involved???


But a traveling bear is just that, when they head out on a mission (for whatever reason only they and God know) they can boogie.

they eat ground at a stroll that I can't hardly keep up with in hurry up mode


wonder if they get to keep their name? lmao

kinda reminds me of buying a car from a dealer titled "Honest Ray's"

if you feel the need to put it in your title odds are there's a reason

my best guesstimate is one of the hired hands got let go and "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" but followed closely by an employee with an ax to grind

oh and no offense to SCI members I agree their only part in this was gullibility


but as Jeff stated, it's what happens when you turn the sport of hunting into "who has the biggest schlong contest"

Hmmm... You sayin' the "Diana" awardee has a schlong? Is there a record book for that sort of thing?

The title of this thread should read, "Busted! Poacher Gets Egg on Face".

Alrighty, Rick can lock this one down.

The SCI has a long history of turning a blind eye toward illegal activity. If anyone has read George Schaller's book " Snow Leopard" you know that in it he lists the number of countries in which that the founder of SCI was wanted for needlessly slaughtering bands of rams in order that he would be sure of killing the absolutely largest.

I bet there's a-holes in every organization.

Will see if I can get a copy... That would be an interesting read...

What do you guys think about the SCI TV hunting show doing hunts on high fence/ semi-tame deer?

The hunting industry is very small and while some outfitters ensure their business success by being silent about indiscretions, there are always peripheral people involved so the facts slip out.

I was on review teams investigating trophy award applications and there are applicants I would not care to have as friends. When the award itself is the target, You will have your work cut out investigating the genuinely honorable.

Because checkbook hunting and trophy awards invoke status to some, awards were subdivided into Bronze, Silver, Gold or Diamond levels to keep the application fees and interest high as well as the endless backslapping and hero worship.

I have never scored my animals and I was a certified SCI scorer. I simply cannot put a measure on what is my own life's experience.

I think Mike Rodgers (the host) couldn't find his arse with both hands if not shown the way. SCI may do a lot of splendid things to promote and protect hunting - that's not one of them.

Agreed.

What I find to be a troublesome idea is the one of putting people on a pedestal for being ethical.

For one thing, on occasion being ethical is unlawful, Edward Snowdens situation comes to mind. Following game wounded on the last day of a season the next day is another situation that is perilous and creates not an ethical dilemma, but an unlawful ethical act.

Before someone suggests telling a warden before tracking, here in the west I have spent days trying to find a warden to talk to.

The Alphabet organizations have no choice but to be on the bandwagon for a lot of really bad ideas.

Instead of the current revenue maxing scheme, I wish game departments issued tags only for the number of animals that were surplus to the herd. The tag holder could make all the choices as to how they filled the tag. The quality of the experience would be the direct result of their choices.

I like to watch hunting shows now and then but anytime you add that "High Fence" it is no longer hunting. I have had a few spats with clowns in Texas who claim this hunting ranch is huge and is not really a exotic farm....Show me the fence dude.

If it ain't fair chase, it ain't hunting! Simple!