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Did you happen to put in on a scale before you mounted it? I'd be interested to know the weight. Also, is it FFP?
Looks like something I could like ALOT. This one is 22.5oz. I'm told sometimes prototype optics will have heavier materials in them, than what the production run units will have. Some internal parts may be made of steel instead of alloy on the prototype. It is a FFP scope. I plan on doing a head to head with the Bushnell, a S&B 10X42 PMII, and a March 3-24X42. Thanks for the info! I knew you guys had spec'd it to come in at 24oz or less, but didn't know what the actual was. I think I could live with that weight, but a skosh lighter wouldn't hurt my feelings any. Used my first FFP scope this year in Wyoming and I like that setup alot. Now I just need to make more time for trigger pulling so as to really start to see it's benefits. Thanks for all the info and welcome back. Hope the boys have a good winter on the wrestling mats!
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What's your opinion on the glass, Pat?
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I would rate the glass on par with NF and March. Maybe one notch under the S&B.
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My bet is, this scope will also be available in MOA. Maybe not right away, but it will happen.
YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love almost everything about this scope, just not in the mil version. Yes there has been a disconnect and a gap in the long range rifle scope world. no one has seem to got it till this scope. I would like to see what this scope does on a tall target test. just got the applied ballistics videos the other day. inverted T on a tall target in this case probably 4 feet high. set it up perfectly level. measure off exactly 100 yards, best done with a tape measure. shoot a group, then crank that baby one full turn of 10 mils, now shoot again. I am sure you have probably done this before. I am interested in what if any tracking error this scope has. tracking that is as good as my nightforce will sell me on potentially switching.
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Any plans for slightly higher magnification on the upper end? How do these turrets compare with the 6500. The 6500 turrets to me seem to turn way too easily...
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a 3-15 model would have been ideal, I like higher power for load development and long range load development. 15x on the top gives me enough so I don't feel the need to put on my high power scope then switch back. but 12x is enough for long range hunting in practice in field conditions. they may have felt a 4:1 erector was more user friendly ie getting behind the scope etc.
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![[Linked Image]](http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp311/patrickgsinclair/boxtest002.jpg) Just finished up this "Box Test". I'm pretty pleased to say the least!! The scope definatley works in the cold!.....rifle ain't half bad either!! Some of those groups look like two shots, but they are all three shot groups.
Last edited by scenarshooter; 12/04/13. Reason: added info
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looks like you at least have the scope mounted correctly  and it does track vertical, I assume those markes you made were premeasured to whatever 3 and 9 mils = at 100 meters, if thats the case it already better than a leupold
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Looks great, Pat! Feel like running one or your S&B scopes on the same piece of cardboard just to see how it compares? *grin*
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looks like you at least have the scope mounted correctly and it does track vertical, I assume those markes you made were premeasured to whatever 3 and 9 mils = at 100 meters, if thats the case it already better than a leupold 30 cm and 90 cm. MRAD are more intuitive and straight forward than MOA, but some of us are stuck in MOA mode (I like and use both) 
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a 3-15 model would have been ideal, I like higher power for load development and long range load development. 15x on the top gives me enough so I don't feel the need to put on my high power scope then switch back. but 12x is enough for long range hunting in practice in field conditions. they may have felt a 4:1 erector was more user friendly ie getting behind the scope etc. While we're wishin', I wish for a 4-16X, but a 4-20X would be even better.
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If I have to sell every scope I own to do it, I'm gonna have to try one of these�
John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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If I have to sell every scope I own to do it, I'm gonna have to try one of these�
John You won't be flyin solo on that.
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Cant wait for this scope to hit the racks.
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This is what George Gardner said in another thread. Got word today that the scope Indicated Retail for $1479, That's Retail, should not change from this.
Im guessing that they will sell in the neighborhood of $1250-1350 being that nobody gets retail.
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Thanks for the info. Any idea when they will be out? Might have been stated and I over looked it.
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Can't wait for these to hit the market! My GAP rifles will definitely be wearing one...
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What's the price point on this scope? $299 MSRP?
I just scored a Vortex Viper HS 4-14x44 30mm tube MOA clicks for $399. should have it this week.
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