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Wtxj gets credit for posting the link, I just reposted and copied and pasted it because I didn't think many had read it.

Mike

OK Mike, but have you ever seen proof layed out like this and the outright refusal to believe?

This exactly like Obama voters. They were shown the proof, now they are just starting to believe because the Pain of it is now here. Same with this FreeMason stuff, except the pain is not just higher costs of material things.

This is exactly like Obama voters that have drunk the Koolaid and refuse to accept the facts. Some people are willing to believe anything said by anyone that supports their beliefs.

Especially if it is negative information.

Happens far to often when discussing issues with some Christians.

Didn't the article itself claim that the encyclopedia was the Mason's choice of information? Hardly an independent verification of source material.

Likewise, if Mason's are saying it's not a religion, why would one refer a non-member to a document that contradicts them?



you're quite pretentious demanding information. maybe we should air out all our sinful nature - here - after all, what's the difference.

Don't bother yourself, that fellow has a burr up his arse about something.

What you just said there is a lie, so you're guilty of what you accuse others of. Christians don't say that Judaism was founded for the purpose of denying the Messiahship of Christ (quite the opposite, in fact). We say that what today goes by the name Judaism (more precisely Talmudic Judaism) was founded (at a time after Christ) for that purpose.

He differentiated between the Judaism of the OT (which, as I pointed out, can no longer exist because the reality it's types & shadows pointed toward has come in Christ, and because there is no temple) and post-Messiah "Talmudic Judaism" in the quote you cite.

If you're unfamiliar with the distinctions made within a debate you can ask for clarification rather than jumping to conclusions based upon your perceptions of a past comment.

Or do you dispute the truth of what I said above? You're free to do so and I won't call you names if you do. If you believe Scripture to be true you'll have a tough time making a case otherwise, but if you don't, again, I'll not call you names or say you're hateful of Christians or Christianity. Just that we'll have to agree to disagree.

Or you can cast personal aspirations upon the character and motives of the person you don't or won't try to understand, and therein practice the very thing you so self-righteously condemn.

Or the third option is your could just ignore the person.

I've noticed in many threads on this board that it is those who feign offense at some heinous generalization from people expressing opinions who take things to a personal level quickest, all the while lamenting how personal and hateful everybody else is.

That presents an interesting paradox.

That's it wrong to be hateful of the haters.

Is it wrong to find intolerance, prejudice, and false accusations offensive?

Where do you draw the lines?

When a man says the majority of Masons and the majority of Jews are nice people, but are too stupid and too ignorant to recognize the demonic evil practiced by their leaderships, one can hardly make a good argument that this is just a general opinion and isn't meant to insult any individual Mason or Jew.

He identified you pretty well, didn't he fish head?

I find those things wrong & offensive, but that doesn't mean I have to then practice the same thing. One can ignore; this is just the friggin internet for goodness sake.

Problem above is that what he said concerning what he called Talmudic Judaism is factually correct if you believe the Scriptures to be true. If you don't then you're free to believe whatever you like, but that doesn't make him "mean" or "intolerant" for stating what he believes any more than you suggesting that Democratic ideas about entitlements are destructive to those they purport to help makes you intolerant.

Dang Fish Head, I think this is going to 2,000.

I've following along here and laughing a lot.It is amazing how all these non-Masons claim to know so much.There is not one person on this thread who can honestly say he was solicited and asked to JOIN the Masonic Lodge.Secondly,Masonry IS NOT a religion,it is a fraternal order,plain and simple.Lastly,if it were not for a few Masons,George Washington,Ben Franklin,etc...None of us would even be here freely typing on this here internet how bad and wicked Masonry is.I suggest that before someone claims intelligence on a matter,that he actually posses it.

If you choose not to agree with me, then two things for certain become very obvious.

1...YOU ARE WRONG!!!

2...I AM RIGHT!!!


Questions???

Oh I was asked but I knew I didn't fit. I'm a anarchist and I don't fit fraternal organizations very well.

Dang, you are starting to sound like me!

The Pharisees were the precursors to what became Talmudic Judaism. They were the Jewish sect at the time of Christ who emphasized the traditions that had grown up around the Torah, rather than the Torah itself, which sect Christ and the Apostles condemned as raising "the traditions of men" above the word of God. In other words, they placed greater weight on the scholarly "interpretations" of the Torah than they did the Torah itself.

Eventually, these traditions became the center of religious life for these Jews (particularly since the Temple had been destroyed, precluding anything like the normal practice of authentic Judaism), leading to their being formalized in what we know today as the Talmud.

Since these traditions became codified after the death and resurrection of Christ, they exhibited a decidedly anti-Christian tone, taking every opportunity to contradict the beliefs of Christians, and insult Christ and Christians. Which is what is meant when one says that Talmudic Judaism (as distinct from the Judaism of the Patriarchs of the Torah, and that of Jesus and the Apostles) was founded for the purpose of denying the Messiahship of Christ.