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I am looking at this scope for my CZ 452. Is this a good scope for practicing long range shooting? Are there better options to this one?

i would get something with parallax adjustment for a .22.

Brad,

I would assume "long range" with a .22 means 100 yards and beyond. If that's the case, the Elite 10x will work fine, as parallax is essentially non-existent at 100, at least in the one I have. And even at closer ranges, if you center your eye in the scope's field of view, there's no parallax.

The optics and adjustments are both very good.

Had one and it's not a bad scope and would work. I would suggest a used T-16 Weaver as a better option as you can see your results much better. Most or all of them only saw duty on the range and are in good shape. Al the t-series scopes are excellent, but the 16 is awesome

Thanks all, I went out and bought one just now. I'll be using this rifle from 50yds out to 220yds to practice shooting and dialing / reading range and wind. Putting Burris Zee rings on it, trying the .020 inserts first.

I will offer that shooting a 22 at 200 yards is pretty much like shooting a 223 at 1000...only more frustrating. I ran out of elevation with a 52 winchester and Palma sights at a 200 yard smallbore match

Try it, but 100 yards will give you all the "experience " you need

The 20 inserts will give you roughly 20 MOA, but SV ammo may not make paper at 200

I would disagree. Both my wife and I have killed numerous "gophers" (ground squirrels) at 150-200 yards with .22 rimfires, using scopes with various "ballistic" reticles. This includes the bottom tip of the heavy section of a typical plex-type reticle long before multi-point reticles ever appeared.

Yeah, a 1" scope tube limits adjustment range, but a 1" scope (like a 30mm scope on a centerfire) can always be mounted at angle with with a little "up" for longer-range shooting.

And 200 yards sure isn't the limit.

I've shot quite a few prairie dogs at 200 yards. Some at over 300. Helps to have a relatively calm day, or at least a steady wind once one gets out into the 250-300 yard range.

An accurate rifle with good ammo is a big help, as is a scope setup for long range. My current "long range" 22 uses a SWFA 3-9. That being said, I've shot pdogs at over 200 yards with a basic birch stocked 10/22, cheap bulk pack ammo, and good old holdover in a 4x Leupold.

That's been my experience as well. My longest was at 275, and there was some wind.

Once took part in a "long-shot" prairie dog contest with several other people and rifles provided by various companies. I came in THIRD in the .22 Long Rifle category with a Ruger 10/22, at 238 yards. Took me 3 shots to kill one at that range and I thought the contest was mine. NOT! I came in second or third, don't remember. Do remember John Haviland beat me.

I've gotten my revenge in some other shooting contests, but do remember he also killed once killed a PD at around 1300 with a .22-250. He admitted it was a "very expensive prairie dog," though, since it took a couple of boxes of ammo.

On the Zee rings I went up 0.020 in the back and down 0.010 in the front, should equate to 30 MOA. I have been using an IPSC 'man' target at 100m (109yds) scaled down to represent the target sitting at 1000yds.

When I was a young lad that didn't know any better, I would spend many summer afternoons in flickertail colonies with a Marlin 81 scoped with a Weaver K4 and a brick of Federal short hollow-points. (they were cheaper) I quickly learned that the placing the top of the bottom heavy section of the vertical duplex reticle on a gopher's head at 100 yds put me on the money at that range. All of this shooting was done from standing or sitting position. I've killed many gophers this way at 100 yds and a little farther. And accurate .22 LR with good ammunition should work well at 200 yds. Just for kicks I've shot plenty of groups at 200 yds with my Stevens 44 1/2 .22 LR match barrel and Wolf Match ammunition. 2" or smaller 10 shot groups with the 6x external adjustment scope are the norm with that rifle. No reason a tricked out 10/22 or good bolt with the Elite 10x shouldn't equal or better those results with good ammo. But you won't do it with the Remington Lightning that you bought in a plastic bucket.

How far apart are the rings?

I bought one of these scopes, with mil adjustments, on the strength of a favorable review by Mule Deer in Rifle Loony News. They may not be the best LR scope out there if you have the money to spend, but I think they are a lot of scope for the money. I paid $200 for mine as Midway had them on sale at the time.

Prior to this time, I owned hunting scopes with conventional turrets and always used a 200-yard zero on my .223, which put me about 6" low or so at 300, 24" at 400 etc. I never shot past 300, so worrying about holdovers wasn't too big a deal. Then last year I got some LR training by Frank Proctor, using a borrowed .308 sniper rifle with a Leupold and LR turrets. Having learned the basics of LR shooting, I decided I should have a least one LR scope in my modest assortment of rifles, so I bought the Elite.

After zeroing, I was testing it a bit on a steel B&C zone target at ranges between 200 and 450 and it worked fine with my initial dope card. I also had a Swift mounted with a 2x10 hunting scope with a 200-yard zero. At 300, the Swift worked just about as well as the .223 on the steel, since the bullets landed only about 3-4" below the crosshairs, such that I could aim at the chin and place a small group in the high chest. However, back at 450, I had to guess and holdover, whereas with the .223 I simply dialed and aimed. At 450, my .223 made a neat 2-inch five-shot group right on my crosshairs. With my Swift, it took an embarrassing couple of misses to find the holdover and just clang the steel anywhere. Notwithstanding its 600 fps disadvantage, my .233 was outperforming my Swift, simply because of the optics. So, I went straight home and ordered another Elite. For my needs, I'm very satisfied.

max distance for a CZ 452

It's kind of hard for me to plug that into my calculator.

I had one and it was great for 100yd work at the range, but I could not get it to focus at 50yds and to me the target image was truly blurry at 25yds. So I ended up selling the scope because it didn't do me much good having a scope I couldn't use at closer ranges.

I don't know if the scope I had was an aborition but that was my experience.

4 inches center to center. What are you ciphering?

Just trying to get you an MOA tilt number to work with.

arctan(.03/4) = .42971 degrees

.42971 degrees x (60 minutes / 1 degree) = 25.78 minutes of angle

Just under 26 MOA.

Thanks, I think the scope has 50moa internal adjustment, so 26ish + 25 =51 moa, should get me to 200+ yds with standard velocity LR's

FP, get in touch w sscoyote. He's a math and LR savant. Seen him popping PDs at 300+ w a Ruger Charger.