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I've never heard of anyone building around a 7 that wanted to do it a second time. Maybe I need to get out more.
1flier I'm on my 3rd. A 700 would have done fine for any of them, but i had 7's on hand when i decided to do all three. The concessions don't bother me as i wouldn't benefit for the 700s lack of said concessions.
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Hey Boxer, your rants and name calling are grade school and your opinion means nothing to me if you are 12 that is ok but most adults won't call names and really I don't need to read the crap anyway. We have 7 action laying around and are going to see if they will work. We have a lot work first before we do it too make sure they will if not a 700 it will be. Oh and yes I am blonde!!!!!! Not sure I am dumb yes JIM can read!!!!!!. Anyway these rifles are not even started yet as we are making sure everything will work if not we will go another way. HAPPY HUNTING
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M700 aics dbm = 3.000"+ coal. M7 mag = 2.800" 140 VLD = 1.42" .260 rem case = 2.035"
Any of this making sense?
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If you're dead set on using a Model Seven, a 6.5 Creedmoor would be a better choice than a 260. If you want a 260, sell the action and buy a 700.
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makes sense, we just had them laying around so wanted to use them. If it won't work we will get 700s. Wasn't trying to start a pissing match, just wanted to see if it was possible and if anyone has done it. Thanks for the info. HAPPY HUNTING
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There'd be a lot of guys on the is very board that would buy a stainless Seven off you in an instant (I would if I have the cash). Depending on caliber and sales at the time, you could net two 700 actions for the price of selling the Seven stainless.
I love Sevens, but not for a range gun that you might want a DBM, readily available and changeable stocks, or other doodads. A Seven is making it hard on yourself.
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I still can't figure out why Remington doesn't make a stainless model 7 anymore. Mine is a 243 with about 30rds down the tube with the camo stock. I am not going to sell it as they will probably never make another one. I will just have to buy a model 700 action I see brownells has them in stock. Thanks for all the info wish the model 7 would of worked but it is going to be fun no matter what. HAPPY HUNTING
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I can't figure out how a gunsmith didn't explain that this wasn't a good idea to begin with.
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I gotta agree with selling the 7 with the prices they are bringing and getting a 700 and put the extra funds into other areas of the project
Guns don't kill people, it's mostly the bullets
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We were looking to see if they made an aftermarket DBM for a model 7. We kind of knew first that we might have some problems with COAL. That is why I asked some questions to see if anyone had done it. We have never done a model 7 yet we have a couple 17 fireballs that we are waiting for shilen barrels to get here and they are model 7 actions that we accurized. Maybe that was a bad idea also, but guess we will find out. Like I said we just wanted to see if anyone had done it and if it worked out. HAPPY HUNTING
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i have built a mid range gun on a model 7 stainless action. finding a stock was the most frustrating part of the build. of course you can have any custom stock inletted for anything but i was looking for a "bolt on". i chose an xr100 laminate thumbhole and had the bottom metal inletted for the repeater action. it is using a rem varmint contour barrel in 1-8 twist. its primarily a varmint gun now but i still have no regrets. it was my first "long range" build and its what was in the cabinet.
i have alot of experience with the 260. shooting the 123 class of bullets provides a bit more long range performance than shooting the heavies bc you can get alot more speed. as a result, barrel life suffers, but barrels are consumable.
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my current f-class gun is a 260. i think the longer the barrel the better as long as its heavy enough to be stiff. i shoot 28 inch #17's. a 123 scenar at 3050-3100fps is the cats pajamas. also with the 123 you can feed from the mag if you use a wyatts extended box.
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We were looking to see if they made an aftermarket DBM for a model 7. We kind of knew first that we might have some problems with COAL. That is why I asked some questions to see if anyone had done it. We have never done a model 7 yet we have a couple 17 fireballs that we are waiting for shilen barrels to get here and they are model 7 actions that we accurized. Maybe that was a bad idea also, but guess we will find out. Like I said we just wanted to see if anyone had done it and if it worked out. HAPPY HUNTING seriously?
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Poor [bleep] is beyond STUPID and his "Gunsmith" is yet another clueless Dumbfhuck.
Just plain WOW. This schit cracks me up.
Fair to middlin' day...yarded on Chrome and (4) new scopes hit the Mail,all of which is 6x's.
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I guess I wouldn't pick a seven. I was given a seven by paw paw. I put a mountain rifle 708 takeoff on it. Need to order a stock real bad for it but ain't yet...well actually I did once and guns got stole and cancelled order. Good guys caught bad guys and got guns back.
If my seven was a 700 it might get new barrel new stock talleys a scope with a turret. My seven got/ will get same. So in my case it was same/same. If I could sell seven for more money than 700 I would....but I won't sell mine cause paw paw is dead and he won't be getting me anymore rifles.
Is there another difference I've not seen? When ordering stock I will go adl and open up rear screw hole in tang.
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what are the ss 7's pulling in theses days?
I Kill Things......deal with it..
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There is some ignorance being put out in this thread. The Model 7 is a 700 all the way to the back of the magazine box, from there it is shorter everywhere. This means the magazine length is exactly the same as a SA Rem700. It is not built 'off a 600', it is a shortened design of the 700 and to many is a more suitable offering for a hunting rifle.
Whilst I wouldn't build a target rifle on one, it won't be any more, or less, successful than a 700 based build.
Now, the best hunting stock I've found is the Wildcat Composites Carbon stock. It weighs in at a real world 16oz out of the box, a whole 18oz with bedding, painting and a flipflop recoil pad.
I built a Model 7 7/08 last year which went 6lb 5oz with a Kahles CL 2-7 on it. A friend liked it so much I'm currently finishing off a Model 7 based 260 for him which will go sub 6lb with the Leupold 2-7 Lightweight he has chosen, some fluting of the bolt and minimal paint.
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You realize the aftermarket mag box designs long enough to allow a 260 to work properly with VLD bullets won't fit a Remington Model Seven?
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You realize the aftermarket mag box designs long enough to allow a 260 to work properly with VLD bullets won't fit a Remington Model Seven? Yep sure do. Didn't talk about the aftermarket ones though did I?
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Wow. Some good information offered but as is often typical. Most questions are only seeking affirmation, not answers. Another M7 issue is that some after market triggers lower front corner hits the floor plate. 1flier summed it up well with,"I've never heard of anyone building around a 7 that wanted to do it a second time." I'd be in that group
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