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Recoil lug like that seen on T3
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The bolt makes a lot of contact with the rounds(both sides) unlike some others I have seen! Feeding & extraction is some of the best I've seen from a pushfeed!
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With respect to stainless vs CrMo, it depends what the finish is. The more expensive Mauser and Blaser rifles (they are the same stable) are gas or plasma nitrided (as are the anschutz 1780), which is a much better option than stainless in my opinion. There are very good reasons why the military specify the use of 4140 even though they expose their weapons to much harsher conditions to most hunters ever will (ok, the M24 is an exception). The sophisticated nitrided finishes are much more weather resistant than stainless, but also allows use of ole fashioned CrMo steel, which is much stronger than stainless. In fact 4140 has the same strength to weight as titanium. Add in the much greater abrasion resistance and I don't think there is any doubt nitrided CrMo is the best material to be making rifles from. It does require a lot of capital investment though, so to my knowledge only the germans are currently using it.

The question is, is the M12 gas/plasma nitrided (like the M03) or standard blued. I don't know. I know the M12 was very much made with an eye on the US market, and that makes me think it is probably standard blued. Anybody know? Also, is the Sauer 101 the ilaflon finish, or just blued?

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Notice how it has 2 feeding ramps - impressive & very effective!
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Thanks M12. I have been thinking about a Mauser. Enjoyed your pics.

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That thing would scare the ugly off an ape. Two each his own, and aside from the aesthetics, the plunger ejector and detachable magazine give me shivers.

Any photos of the M98?

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Very nice rifles but Mauser could of refined it further by paying more attention to the Model 70.

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EW 308Win Model 70 & Extreme 3006 M12 - notice both are in 'full safe'. The Model 70 is a lot easier to manipulate with your thumb - a lot quickly over the 12.

None of the swing safeties though is ever going to be quick to use. Like many folks I have an arthritic thumb and I can't use any of them without taking my right hand of the rifle. It ain't like I'm alone in making this point - Don Heath had made the same point. The safety is actually the greatest weakness of the M70. It is very often fumbled in the heat of the moment and definitely slows getting a first shot off.



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Great photos! Sure can't knock it for lack of attention to finish and detail. Sweet looking rifle.

Write up by Boddington in Rifle Shooter Nov. mag...

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/2013/11/21/mauser-m12-review/




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Now thats the best KIS designed triggers I've yet to have the privilege to use.
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The 12 is without a doubt one beautifully thought out modern rifle, but, for the man that wants a KIS rig the Classic CRF Model 70 is hard to beat - Mauser claw, integral recoil lug............list goes on
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Since 1945, it seems Mauser has deliberately gone as far away from the classic M98 as a German engineer can deliberately take them.

Never understood that, either. They made the most copied and respected rifle action in the world, and then ran away from it.

Not that the M12 is a bad rifle, or the M66, or some of the others (and there have been a LOT of others), but if it ain't broke (or likely to break) why fix it?


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They still make a M98. It is just that they are expensive to make these days, and hence they are expensive to buy and they don't sell many.


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We just can't get there. A Walther Model B 7x57 here.

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