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Originally Posted by smokepole
It's all relative. If you're from Wyoming or Montana, yes. If you've spent time in a big city (one with an NFL, MLB, and NBA team) then even Denver traffic pales in comparison. Especially if you don't have to drive on the freeways.


Or Prince Of Wales Island.

I've spent time in big cities, and still despise driving in these areas. I refer to heading through Denver as "Running the Denver Rapids."

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If you don't mind scorched or blackened tree spires, there is probably some cheaper land in Black Forest, 20-25 miles NE of Colorado Springs, after the big fire last year.


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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Originally Posted by smokepole
It's all relative. If you're from Wyoming or Montana, yes. If you've spent time in a big city (one with an NFL, MLB, and NBA team) then even Denver traffic pales in comparison. Especially if you don't have to drive on the freeways.


Or Prince Of Wales Island.

I've spent time in big cities, and still despise driving in these areas. I refer to heading through Denver as "Running the Denver Rapids."


Well, that's the beauty of describing things objectively, rather than from your own point of view. It gives a guy the benefit of the doubt, as far as being able to judge for himself.



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I lived in Fort Collins for about five years and my wife's family is from the Springs.

I'd take Ft Collins over the Springs.

CS is a big town with big town issues. Traffic, crime, homeless, drugs....Obviously, some areas are much worse than others. I've never really enjoyed it there.

Ft C is a college town. The University is one of the main employers along with local government. HP used to be a decent size employer as well. It is VERY liberal. Lots of OBama stickers.

That said, IMO, it is a much safer place as a whole with good schools. Poudre canyon is right outside of town and lots of recreational opportunity at your doorstep.

I always enjoyed Durango. If jobs weren't the #1 concern, that would be high on my list of Colorado towns to live in.



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Originally Posted by MadMooner
I always enjoyed Durango. If jobs weren't the #1 concern, that would be high on my list of Colorado towns to live in.


A big +1. I'd take Ft Collins over the Springs too.



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If I didn't need the medical facilities here in COS, I would be gone. Probably move to the western slope.

I strongly discourage anyone from moving here if they have a chance to go elsewhere.


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There isn't much on the front range I'd take over the west slope.

Best part of the front range is its proximity to some great bird hunting and biiggg whitetails across the state line.


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It is crowded on the front range, but I have to tell you, compared to the East coast, it's not that bad. Went to school in Boulder, no desire to live there again.

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There's better choices than the springs.

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Originally Posted by smokepole
It's all relative. If you're from Wyoming or Montana, yes. If you've spent time in a big city (one with an NFL, MLB, and NBA team) then even Denver traffic pales in comparison. Especially if you don't have to drive on the freeways.


I don't like the traffic in Thermopolis.

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Originally Posted by Ralphie
Originally Posted by smokepole
It's all relative. If you're from Wyoming or Montana, yes. If you've spent time in a big city (one with an NFL, MLB, and NBA team) then even Denver traffic pales in comparison. Especially if you don't have to drive on the freeways.


I don't like the traffic in Thermopolis.


Ha! Yeah, if I have to wait for more than two cars when I pass through an intersection, I consider it a traffic jam.

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Montana.....everyone I know who lives in Colorado, say they would rather live here.


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You think you have better hunting there, than here?


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Calvin,

Check out Fort Collins. Less crowded and hectic but everything you might need is here. Housing is reasonable. If you decide to come out and check it out, I can show you around and put you up for a few nights. Good hunting and fishing all around.

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I agree and if you come to look in Fort Collins I'll take you guys out to dinner at Nordys


I'd live in Fort Collins every day, all day over Colo Springs.


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Originally Posted by Mauser_Hunter
You have to get closer to the mountains. I live in Buena Vista, and the population hasn't changed in the last 10 years. Nice little town with no crime to speak of. Close to good hunting and fishing.


Buena is nice. I stay just north in Clear Creek occasionally for work.

I could live there, but I doubt it has what the OP is after.


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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Montana.....everyone I know who lives in Colorado, say they would rather live here.


Montana is the place to be if you're doing just one. Doing two, with AK as the other, I'd sooner be in better weather.


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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Montana.....everyone I know who lives in Colorado, say they would rather live here.


We looked into moving there back in 03 or so. Checked the winters and it was too darn cold. So you can count me out too.


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Originally Posted by Brad
I'd live in Fort Collins every day, all day over Colo Springs.


Well, you'd have to. If you lived there. grin

I'd go for Montana, except for the slight inconvenience of having to quit my job.



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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
You think you have better hunting there, than here?


I like it here for lots of reasons. If I wanted to live in Montana. I'd be there.


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