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Last I heard, 6-9 mos ago, he was a year out and not taking new build. Does anyone have a more recent update on his lead time or build status? I could call him but don't have all my parts yet and don't want to waste his time.

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It is not any sooner, but within a year from what I understand. He is still working on his backlog.

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Cliffs right. I was talkin' to Gradous last night and he's over 1 year behind.

Herschel your correct also, not worth ringing him until all parts are in hand. Gradous would rather talk about women porno stars vs gunsmithing unless you have every single component.

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Good to hear he's recovered from the KFC incident.

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Depends on what you are looking for, he has a few rifle ready to ship through Continental Arms in Md. They area all tactical chambered in 308 Win.


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I am picking mine up this month. Merry Christmas to myself!

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Andrews, it's Xmas everyday for you. smile

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Andrews - Pick me up one too while you're there!!

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Waiting 1 year, 3 months already. I figure at least when I get it I will have it the rest of my life. Grin.

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He did recover from the KFC incident. But it seems that he has another problem. Apparently he is being hunted by a pair of cross dressing midgets that want to hurt him. Probably a customer that was upset of the status of his rifle.

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Originally Posted by smirker
He did recover from the KFC incident. But it seems that he has another problem. Apparently he is being hunted by a pair of cross dressing midgets that want to hurt him. Probably a customer that was upset of the status of his rifle.


I don't think there is ANY CUSTOMER that is upset once they receive their rifle... Just sayin.. Hands down, Robert is the BEST builder in the USA!

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Originally Posted by andrews1958
I am picking mine up this month. Merry Christmas to myself!


Here is a peak of my Christmas present and a birthday present from a few years ago. Both from Robert.

Merry Christmas present

http://forum.snipershide.com/sniper...bert-gradous-does-again.html#post2743989

260 Remington
Surgeon action
Surgeon bottom metal
Krieger Barrel cut to 22�,
Badger Muzzle break
McMillian A5 Stock
Jewel trigger
Spuhr rings
Schmidt Bender 12-50x56
Doctor Red dot sight
Angle Degree Indicator MIL-SPEC

Robert and Jim who broke it in for me said the only problem with the rifle is that it sort of boring to shoot it as all you do is point and shoot.


Happy Birthday present

http://forum.snipershide.com/sniper...ther-one-robert-gradous.html#post1423838

Guys as I have mentioned in previous posts Robert is by far the best builder out there not to mention what a fantastic guy he is. Do not worry about the wait time. It is well worth it. You will not be disapointed.

Robert and I have already started plans for the 3rd one. Not sure how long it will take to build it but again it will be well worth the wait.

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To go have him intstruct you how to build a rifle, it's 3,100$ plus the cost of parts. You lookin atleast 6-7 grand + optics cost. That's steep in anyones book.

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You could save $1,850 and just let him do the work on his own and send you the finished product.

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Originally Posted by jsthntn247
To go have him intstruct you how to build a rifle, it's 3,100$ plus the cost of parts. You lookin atleast 6-7 grand + optics cost. That's steep in anyones book.


This is only my point of view on justifying Robert�s costs for his rifles and his gunsmithing school. Also the wait time for his rifles.

Costs
A Cadillac costs more than a Ford. Robert�s rifles are a Cadillac. Really they are a Rolls Royce

Do you need a Cadillac or can you get by with one with less quality and possibly precision? That is everybody�s personal choice.

Are you paying for only his name. If you are happy with your Ford probably, but then ask yourself the following and see if this changes your mind

Resale of rifles. How often do you see one of his rifles for sale and if found how long does it sit before it is sold?

Have you ever heard anything negative about Robert or the quality of his rifles

When you buy one of his rifle you know that:

His rifles are extremely well built. No short cuts to cut costs. Constructed with the finest equipment available and built by one of the knowledgeable and respected gunsmiths in today�s market

You will have no mechanical or quality problems.

Any of his rifles will shoot to bench rest standards if you do your part. One hollers are quite common

Simply Math

$1250 to build your rifle and you supply the parts
$1250/40hours= average time to build a rifle
$31.25 Robert receives per hour based on a 40hr build time
$ 4.68 =15% Average overhead for phone, consumables, insurances, shop help, answering customer questions etc.
$26.57 = An hour to have a professional build your rifle

The wait
To me, Robert�s rifles are like a fine wine. You do not make and sell one in a day. It may take months of waiting to receive perfection.

His rifle building is built on quality not quanity . Again, it all takes time. I know Robert builds everyone�s rifles under the same quality standards. So when you have a backlog and you are applying these standards everyone�s rifle it takes longer


Cost for Gunsmithing Class
$1,850for 4 days lodging and 45hr/5 day class hours. (Aprx) Does not include extra free hours for all the time spent with Robert talking about rifles and the great fishing at his camp where you will be staying.

$1,800 for 4 day deer hunt in SC where Robert lives lodging included. Licence not included http://www.deerfieldplantation.net/prices.htm used as an example

Your choice go to Robert�s class or a deer hunt

By everything I have written I think the costs for his rifle and his class is easily justified and the wait for your rifle is well worth it.

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