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Cabelas has sales going on for a Winchester 101 Field for $949 and the Browning Citori Waterfowl edition for $1449. I will probably use the gun more for pheasant and dove maybe some grouse and small game as well. I always hear that you can't go wrong with Browning but was curious if the less expensive Winchester would still hold up well? I was trying to keep my budget around 800 but figured I'd go up a bit and save over the long run. I did get a chance to go and hold both and loved the way they felt. I just want to get a little help before making the purchase.
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Isn't the Citori made by Miroku? Wasn't the M101 also made by Miroku? In other words, don't both guns use the SAME design and receiver? Twas me I would buy the cheaper O/U and then have it fitted by a competent shotgun smith! Then use the savings to tweek (customize in any way) the new O/U (if needed) to be the pheasant/dove-killer special you want it to be. Along with a good supply of ammo in appropriate loadings or thier reloading components.
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The 101 was never made by Miroku, it was made by Kodensha. The new 101's are made in Belgium, machine built with a lot of MIM parts. The Citori on the other hand still has a lot of hand work in the process with machined parts. Really no comparison.
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Browning is easily worth the extra.
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I like Brownings over 101s and would agree with Battue on the face of it. But if the Browning Waterfowl gun is heavier than a standard model (not being familiar with that one) I would take a good hard look at the 101, if it's lighter. The OP's specs for wanting an all-around gun would drive that decision. I personally wouldn't want to lug a heavy shotgun all day whilst hunting pheasants.
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Agree and should have defined the shotgun as you did.
Many different Brownings out there that I would choose over the Winchester and perhaps the Waterfowl model is on the heavy side. If that is the case I would find a lighter weight Browning.
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A good friend of mine has a Win. 101. This particular shotgun has the nasty habit of occasionally double-firing, with painful results. Several attempts to fix the problem have not succeeded.
Browning is the shotgun of choice, IMO.
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Most likely the waterfowl edition is matte finished with a 3.5" chamber being the only difference between it and a standard Citori. Will probably run in the 8 pound range.
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do they make a lighter version in the same price range?
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They make lighter guns, but usually are pricier due to materials used to make the gun lighter. You can look around at a few, there can be quite a difference in the density of the wood from stock to stock and can make a particular gun lighter than many others.
Citori's have never been known for being light. The difference is in the balance of the gun when compared to a repeater. They seem lighter to carry because the weight is distributed differently.
I did a lot of upland hunting with my 3.5" Citori before I finally sold it. I can't say that I ever ended the day saying I needed a lighter shotgun. I just wanted something different and this one went away as a result.
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I'd look at a used Citori Upland Special with 24" barrels or a Citori Superlight Feather which has the alloy receiver with 26" barrels. I've been carrying a 20 ga. Upland Special for going on 30 years now and love it.
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Buy the one that fits you best This... I have two 101s and several Clitoris... I prefer the 101 because I shot it far better than the Clitoris. Let fit drive the purchase as both are very reliable shotguns.
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