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They seem to have a decent following, even out in the sticks where I'm at. Then again, so do Core-lokts, Partitions and a whole host of other bullets that are well directed.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Three limitations. 1) Lack of frontal area 2) Lack of penetration with =< 140 grain projectiles 3) I wouldn't trust it to always stabilize 175's.
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Three limitations. 1) Lack of frontal area 2) Lack of penetration with =< 140 grain projectiles 3) I wouldn't trust it to always stabilize 175's.
You've been hitting the Mt Gay again, haven't you.
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Big enough for deer size game and only so so accuracy in all the 7mm-08s I've owned so far. it lives...
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Three limitations. 1) Lack of frontal area 2) Lack of penetration with =< 140 grain projectiles 3) I wouldn't trust it to always stabilize 175's.
You've been hitting the Mt Gay again, haven't you. Mt Gay Rum, elixia of the gods my friends.
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What would you consider the limitations of the 7mm-08? The guy shooting it..But thats true for lots of cartridges. 3rd post nailed it!
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Without getting snarky- which would be easy- I think he was looking for some perspective without settling for the fact that the 22 Hornet will work on white bears......sometimes anyway.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Not quite IMO. Most 7-08s are twisted 1:10, while most (if not all) 7x57s are twisted faster. The heavier slugs I like are partial to the faster twist of the 7x57. The 7-08s I've owned didn't like 160 grainers, let alone the 175 grainers I like. That is why I currently own three 7x57s and zero 7-08s. YMMV. Remmy 7-08's all twist at 9 1/4.
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Lets not forget that Bell killed Elephants with a 7x57 and the 7mm-08 can fling them right up there with the 7x57. Twist is the key for heavy bullets.I just bought a 7mm Ultra Mag for long range 160 partitions but my 7mm-08 ain't no sloutch. Its your choice.
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According to some people, it has none.
Its apparently far superior to the 270 Win, by virtue of 0.007 greater bullet diameter and 20% less powder capacity.
It is also much better than the 30-06 for the same reason of having 20% less capacity and a fractionally smaller bore size.
You will find the only big game cartridges as good as the 7-08 to be the 7x57 or the 280 AI. Of course these require an action from quarter to half an inch longer, rendering them inoperable.
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Everything has more "can" than "will". As I pointed out, you don't really need more than a 22 Hornet if you are content with "can". (That's not saying the 7mm-08 is a bad cartridge. I've carried it more miles perhaps, than any single other, but I do recognize its potential.)
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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You will find the only big game cartridges as good as the 7-08 to be the 7x57 or the 280 AI. Of course these require an action from quarter to half an inch longer, rendering them inoperable.
I'm glad you're figuring out that SEVEN is a magic number!
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Everything has more "can" than "will". As I pointed out, you don't really need more than a 22 Hornet if you are content with "can". (That's not saying the 7mm-08 is a bad cartridge. I've carried it more miles perhaps, than any single other, but I do recognize its potential.) A man's gotta know his (and his rifle's) limitations!
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I was a bit speculative with my son's with a 140 Accubond loaded over a stiff charge of Varget. One shot at 360 yards, penetrated fully on the broadside elk, taking a rib on the way in, blowing a nice sized hole through the lungs and then exiting on the opposite side through the "muscly" area of the shoulder just in front of the scapula. Elk took two steps and fell over dead. Excellent confidence in a very good cartridge, and my son's practice paid off. Little bugger had a heck of hunting season with that little rifle. Very proud daddy here.
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FireHawk, you've gotta be happy with that.
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You will find the only big game cartridges as good as the 7-08 to be the 7x57 or the 280 AI. Of course these require an action from quarter to half an inch longer, rendering them inoperable.
I'm glad you're figuring out that SEVEN is a magic number! Heheh, have resisted so far! If I get a 7, my 270, 308 and 30-06 (not to mention the 303 sporterised SMLE) will be shelved far too much I feel.
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what would you say the range limit on elk or moose would be with say a 120ttsx or a 140ttsx? Wife shot a decent 5x5 bull at 318 yds using the 140 gr TSX out of her 7-08ai. MV was 2940ish fps and both bullets exited. The modest increase in MV with the Ackley could probably be offset by the modest increase in BC of the tipped TSX. A std 7mm-08 shooting a 140 gr TTSX should work out to 400+ yds on an elk. I would be confident in the bullet and end result if I was confident in the shot at that range.
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INHO the 7mm-08 is a fine cartridge easily handling 99% of the hunting available in N America and most non dangerous game the world over. On the other hand so can most of the other medium bore rifles that can throw a bullet weighing 130-200 grs at a speed greater than 2500fps. For dangerous game there are better choices. I know Bell killed elephants blah blah blah but in realistic perspective and with existing game laws that's moot. I also don't buy a lot of the velocity claims that I see quoted or maybe I should say I don't believe the safety of some of the loads I see thrown out there. There just isn't any way you are going to push a 7mm-08 to practically match or even exceed the velocities of the same bullet from a larger case such as a 280 or 7mag without using higher pressure.
Having said that I think the 7mm-08 is a fine round. MY friend and I both ended up with a couple of stevens 200's a few years ago his is a 7mm-08 and mine is a 308. I have to say there isn't anything I would attempt to do with one that I would not with the other and expect to see different results and I could easily hunt the rest of my life with that little 308 as I like it that much.
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I also don't buy a lot of the velocity claims that I see quoted or maybe I should say I don't believe the safety of some of the loads I see thrown out there. Totally agree. Some velocities quoted for the 7-08 and 7x57 are dangerously delusional.
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I would take any of Tophet's answers pertaining to velocity with a grain of salt. He no longer has the capacity to measure velocity and when he doesn't get the result he wants, this is what happens... And he likes his chronos dead, the punisher in this case was a 416 Rigby....
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