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And when/does a low SN start adding value?
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#109 (action only) Prolly late second/early third month production Feb/March 1936. I bought it on gunbroker for $680 back in the early 2000s. Was a .270 Win in bad shape, used the action, chunked the rest. The only intact one I have still is 12111 (10/1937), also a .270. Both of these have the "original" first version of the wing safety- the one without the notch/retaining pin. Haven't quite yet figured out what do do with this one yet. I am not a collector, am partial to Pre Wars and am in the process of replacing my Pre 64s with Pre Wars. In the past I've paid $1000 for H&H and $700 for std donors. Thank Christ I have all the actions/donors I need as I wouldn't pay some of the prices I see today.
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Mine is 66xxx.....
I believe it is 1948 vintage .......
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THe earliest one I had was #1534 but I sold it a couple years ago, it was a 30/06.
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I've got one in the 45xxx range and another in the 54xxx range. Can't remember exact digits. Both are 30-06, the 45 is a standard rifle, the 54xxx is a target rifle made prior to the transitional models.
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My 22 hornet is 41xxx. At one time I had a 39xxx .270, but I sold it a few years ago.
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I had to look at my records to see what the earliest M70 I currently own it #868XX, it a 257 SG Carbine transition. Just 50 behind it is a 270 SG and a couple thousand after that is a 22 Hornet Carbine.
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Battue: I have a Model 70 Bull Gun in "300 Magnum" with a serial number of 4,5xx - I have owned earlier guns but they have been traded away. I passed on buying serial number "6" some years ago - wish now I had paid the freight on that one! As a general comment on your other inquiry "when does a low SN start adding value" - anytime would be my answer. And when comparing similar gun to similar gun (in the pre-64 Model 70 line!) the general rule is the lower the serial number the more the additional value. The bigger the difference in serial numbers the MORE value will be added to the lower numbered Rifle. For instance using MY evaluations of my Bull Gun with serial number 4,5xx I surmise it is worth about $1,500.00 to $2,000.00 more than my Bull Gun with serial number 535,5xx (they are in similat minty condition)! If the serial numbers were only a few hundred or a couple thousand numbers different then not much difference at all but when the number is 100,000 or more different then the valuations can be significantly different. Long live the Riflemans Rifle. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Right now SN 75,735 a transition ,30-06 that I got thru Mark ( Safariman) is that earliest, I am tickled to heaven with the gun and plan on nailing a whitetail with her next bluebird day. We are in full bull stinking buck rut right now in SW GA, these guys are not eating just chasing the golden poontain. You have to whistle or shoot to get them to stop and pick their heads up for the shot. Yesterdays buck had pine bark all thru his horns from working his scrape line and polishing his horns. very best
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I have one with 4xx SN and 3 other 4 digit SN's
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5149, an absolutely mint Standard Hornet I bought from the original owner's 70 y/o daughter several years ago....
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I have one with 4xx SN and 3 other 4 digit SN's Mr Whitebird ,you and Mr Balltown take som pixs, the guns I have seen from you guys collections thus far have been breath taking.This is one forun,websight I never tire of. Keep the photos coming guys! very best
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Ball game price on a known 3 digit-in the 5s-known closet queen? However,no box or tags.
Forgot: .30-06
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I am not a model 70 collector.. Have owned a couple, but only a post 64 now from a relative.. But 20 years ago, a guy down the street passed away.. Jim and I were friends, but not close.. I had admired his .220 Swift several times at the range.. It had a Noske(?) scope on it in a Snith mount.. Hope I spelled those close.. It was his coyote rifle, and sometimes deer rifle.. Anyway, his sister offered to sell me the rifle.. Jim had wrapped the barrel with electrical tape to cut down the glare when hunting coyotes.. I knew if I had it I would want a better scope and would use it for coyotes.. It was just too cool for someone to shoot coyotes with.. So I suggested they take it to my old trap shooting buddy.. He was a major model 70 collector.. Anyway Claude bought the gun, and when he unwrapped the tape it was almost perfect.. The serial # was either 725 or 750.. I don't remember now.. But I think his daughter has the rifle to this day..
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Several years ago I handled a 30-06 in a pawnshop and if I remember correctly the serial# was 1XXX. Had a custom stock and a side mount.
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I had to look at my records to see what the earliest M70 I currently own it #868XX, it a 257 SG Carbine transition. Just 50 behind it is a 270 SG and a couple thousand after that is a 22 Hornet Carbine. Lordy Mr Reelman, What kind of money would that jewel bring on today's market as it has it ALL, 257Bob, carbine,transition then throw Super Grade as your cherry on top!!
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Was at a gun show in Houston in the late 80'sor early 90's and saw one that was no.9.. My lowest no. is 35xxx in 270.
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I had to look at my records to see what the earliest M70 I currently own it #868XX, it a 257 SG Carbine transition. Just 50 behind it is a 270 SG and a couple thousand after that is a 22 Hornet Carbine. Lordy Mr Reelman, What kind of money would that jewel bring on today's market as it has it ALL, 257Bob, carbine,transition then throw Super Grade as your cherry on top!! Not sure what it would bring as I've never seen one available for sale. I messed up as this is not my earliest, I forgot to put my one remaining Pre-War in my files! Not sure of the number but it's a Pre-War Carbine in 250/3000. I made a display of my 3 carbines as there is a Pre-War 250, Transition 257, and Post-War 22H (actually it's a type 3 transition) to show the differences in the different actions.
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I remember reading an article in American Rifleman a couple years ago about M70 serial number 1. If I remember correctly they found it hanging in a gun rack in a pick up in Wyoming where it was bounced around all those years!
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