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wouldnt making pot legal in the U.S. solve a lot of problems? then maybe the cartels wouldnt import so much of it, and our prisons wouldnt be so full of dealers, a lot of people i talk to smoke pot. and its accepted pretty much every where. and b.o. and friends would have something else they could tax. besides us. rio7
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I wonder how this is going to affect inventory in Colorado? January 1 is only five days away. The convenience stores have muchies piled to the roof in anticipation of increased demand. Mexican commercial brown isn't worth squat when you have access to hydro. The cartels are feeling the pinch due to the "legal" US quality control home grown. which is why they have started heavily investing in meth production......they can buy the chemicals from China and India by the container load, make it in Mexico and sell it cheaper that the tweakers here can make it.... More people to hang. It's all good. Bring it, I'll build the gallows.
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wouldnt making pot legal in the U.S. solve a lot of problems? then maybe the cartels wouldnt import so much of it, and our prisons wouldnt be so full of dealers, a lot of people i talk to smoke pot. and its accepted pretty much every where. and b.o. and friends would have something else they could tax. besides us. rio7 no Blue i dont think it would solve much other than make those of us using it medicinally not criminals.....not gonna change a damn thing down your way cause the cartels arent going to give up on making money....they will just switch to a different product ect.... however the fact the feds say it has no medicinal value while cocaine and meth do is more than a lil crazy....if you have ever had eye, ear, nose or throat surgery there is a very good chance you have been given cocaine during surgery....
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wouldnt making pot legal in the U.S. solve a lot of problems? then maybe the cartels wouldnt import so much of it, and our prisons wouldnt be so full of dealers, a lot of people i talk to smoke pot. and its accepted pretty much every where. and b.o. and friends would have something else they could tax. besides us. rio7 Carry that logic a little further � Make murder and rape legal. And taxable. Just think of it! � They'd no longer be reported as crimes, so the official crime-rate reports'd go way down. � There'd be hundreds fewer killers and rapists in prison, so the costs there'd go way down, too. � And the IRS'd go after killers and rapists for taxes worlds more assiduously than the DoJ goes after 'em for trial, incarceration, and execution. (And the IRS isn't nearly as sensitive to skin color as the DoJ is.) � Fees for "hit" contracts would go way down, so there'd be a lot more jobs for hire. (Oh, sure! There'd be other effects, of course � but we're not going to talk about those right now, are we?)
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I think we should go the other way.
Make alcohol and tobacco illegal. Mandatory 5 to 10 in prison for possession of a beer, cigarette or tin of chew. Life imprisonment for anyone caught with distilled spirits like whiskey or scotch. Tobacco kills thousands each year and alcohol has ruined lives and destroyed families since the first Egyptian let his barley soup ferment.
I can't see any downside to it. Except maybe the death of NASCAR from lack of corporate sponsorship.
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last night we had a large group of illegals, over on the east side of the main ranch. it was raining,cold,muddy, border patrol found 21 14-16 yr.old kids boys with 2000# of pot they were carrying north,had it bundled up in 40# bales with seatbelts on them for pack straps, border patrol didnt get them all some got away, but think they picked up most of the pot.border patrol hauled them and the pot off,one of the kids told me that they get $300.00 a bale to deliver it up north. if they get caught the border patrol sends them home. to young to go to jail here.they call them baby mules.rio7 I believe it was this past Spring that I started a thread about my friend, Raul, who works on the Longfellow Ranch South of Ft Stockton. I mentioned that during my visit one of the other ranch hands found Three one hundred dollar bills folded together. They were fixing fence near where there is a cattleguard across the County road. Raul said that's what the mules get paid for getting a bundle from the Rio to a pick up point North of HWY 90. They can make 2 or 3 trips a month pretty easily. But................ once a guy starts, he goes when the bosses tell him and there is no retirement program.
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I wonder how this is going to affect inventory in Colorado? January 1 is only five days away. The convenience stores have muchies piled to the roof in anticipation of increased demand. Mexican commercial brown isn't worth squat when you have access to hydro. The cartels are feeling the pinch due to the "legal" US quality control home grown. ?...anyone care to interpret for me.
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The notion that .gov would ever actually profit from taxing marijuana is absurd.
They'll take in money, no doubt. And then they'll set up a dozen alphabet agencies to regulate the growth and distribution of it. They'll expand the IRS to deal with all the new tax laws and loopholes to those laws. Then they'll have LE investigate and arrest folks for possessing untaxed marijuana or the growers / distributors for tax evasion. Instead of incarcerating potheads, we'll incarcerate tax criminals. If you legalize it, the .gov employees you have enforcing current drug laws won't go anywhere and the regulatory arm of the government will grow. Great plan, huh?
If you legalize it, just do it. But don't kid yourself into thinking that it'll be profitable and don't try to buy my vote with that line of nonsense either.
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I wonder how this is going to affect inventory in Colorado? January 1 is only five days away. The convenience stores have muchies piled to the roof in anticipation of increased demand. Mexican commercial brown isn't worth squat when you have access to hydro. The cartels are feeling the pinch due to the "legal" US quality control home grown. ?...anyone care to interpret for me. mexican dope is not as good as US dope
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Mexican dirt weed is not nearly as potent as the stuff grown hydroponically here in someone's basement.
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I wonder how this is going to affect inventory in Colorado? January 1 is only five days away. The convenience stores have muchies piled to the roof in anticipation of increased demand. Mexican commercial brown isn't worth squat when you have access to hydro. The cartels are feeling the pinch due to the "legal" US quality control home grown. ?...anyone care to interpret for me. most mexican pot is grown in huge fields....most teh US grown is done under carefully controled conditions with superior genetics.....basically you can get 4 times the price for the higher quality US grown pot over the lesser quality Mexican brick weed
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It's like any other vegetative product, you can always get a better quality if you grow it yourself and don't have to worry about transportation. The Cartels grow thousands of tons of pot on huge "plantations" and they are not too picky about what gets tossed into the bricks, so low quality leaves, stems, and crud gets mixed in. After all, it's sold by weight, not by THC levels. The grower in Alaska and British Columbia became masters at indoor grows, including hydroponic systems, and were doing hybridization and cloning long before anyone else. The THC levels coming out of some of those grows is mind boggling (pun intended) , while the Mexican stuff just can't compete with the potency. The folks growing it here are now cutting into the Cartel's business the good, old-fashioned way; they are producing a higher quality product at a competitive price. Edited: I see Sheridan beat me with a more concise explanation. Ed
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Okay, now I can follow the conversation without gaps.
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I wonder how this is going to affect inventory in Colorado? January 1 is only five days away. The convenience stores have muchies piled to the roof in anticipation of increased demand. Mexican commercial brown isn't worth squat when you have access to hydro. The cartels are feeling the pinch due to the "legal" US quality control home grown. which is why they have started heavily investing in meth production......they can buy the chemicals from China and India by the container load, make it in Mexico and sell it cheaper that the tweakers here can make it.... More people to hang. It's all good. Bring it, I'll build the gallows. 42 million Americans admit to smoking pot, are you saying you would hand 42,000,000 people.
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I bet after you hang the first million, the other 41,000,000 "quit".
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Okay, now I can follow the conversation without gaps. "Down Under" and the U S, like Shaw said about England and America � "two countries separated by a common language."
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The need for Mexican weed will go down. To many people are growing and lots of state turn they're back. Hopefully states will learn how to tax properly as they become more liberal.
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I bet after you hang the first million, the other 41,000,000 "quit". I shore with fellas on dope, and I am betting it would not deter them at all.
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The need for Mexican weed will go down. To many people are growing and lots of state turn they're back. Hopefully states will learn how to tax properly as they become more liberal. If you lot made it legal you could always smuggle the better quality stuff into Mexico and start taking their money for a change. Ironic really.
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Seriously? If possession of marijuana was an instant death sentence, I find it-I shoot you on the spot, and a MILLION people were executed for it in the first few weeks....nobody would quit?
If all 30 million people in Texas were executed, there's be some potheads in Oklahoma putting down the doobies. Ain't no weed nowhere that's worth instant death.
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