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http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/202309/federal-judge-upholds-safe-act-with-a-few-exceptions/ I've also heard that they will be charging the buyer $10.(soon $20.) for the background check now required for each time you purchase ammo. To me, the REAL scary part about the judges decision is he identifies firearms restrictions as a "political question". We are headed down a long, dark hole........
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The judge boiled the issue down to public safety vs guarantee of Constitutional rights, finding public safety issues as more important. We are well on our way down the long dark hole. NYS has decided that virtually all the pistol permits, issued by the various counties, are to be reviewed. Speculation is that if they find undotted i or an uncrossed t, an individual will likely lose his firearms.
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I think we need Chas. Lovell to review the NYS Safe ACT�..
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Yes Sir, and I'm sure he'd love to do it...........
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I've heard the same thing about the review. It's no longer about guns, it's about "control".
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If the government knows what you have, whether it be guns, gold or food, it is subject to their confiscation. This is what y'all need to keep in mind next time somebody like Bob tells you that registration is not so bad.
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The good people of NY state, what few there are, need to start fitting some politicians for some chicago/cement overshoes.
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Sad indeed. A generation is growing up thinking this is all fine.
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The ammunition buying provisions of this Act are particularly onerous. Although I have not seen anything in the Act that would prevent or preclude anyone from buying ammo out of state and bringing it in. I compete in .22 rimfire benchrest and buy case lots of match ammo after testing various lots. I have been buying test lots and case lots direct from out of state vendors for years. (no one here carries large quantities of match ammo.) When the ammo buying provisions take effect I will have to purchase my ammo out of state, at matches, after it has been picked over, putting me at a competitive disadvantage.
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http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/202309/federal-judge-upholds-safe-act-with-a-few-exceptions/ I've also heard that they will be charging the buyer $10.(soon $20.) for the background check now required for each time you purchase ammo. To me, the REAL scary part about the judges decision is he identifies firearms restrictions as a "political question". We are headed down a long, dark hole........ Don't count us out yet. There are multiple lawsuits out there and we expect several to go to the SC. Until we lose there I'm not going to give up hope. This judge is not the final word.
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This judge is not the final word. True. But for every judge you find that will void that law, the regime will find another one to uphold it.. With judges nowadays, it's a coin-flip for justice... NYers, need to fail to comply en-masse... Tell the state legislature to GFY...
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The good people of NY state, what few there are, need to start fitting some politicians for some chicago/cement overshoes. There are a lot of decent hard-working people here in NY and I think you will be surprised that a goodly number will not register their "assault weapons" and defy the law. NY better start to build lots of prisons to put us all. I hear a lot of people planning on buying their ammo out of state and there are a number of gun mfg here that either have or are planning on moving out of the state. Nice job Cuomo (never liked or voted for him or his father.) Civil disobedience worked in Canada with their gun registration and it can work here, if we have the stones for it.
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If the government knows what you have, whether it be guns, gold or food, it is subject to their confiscation. This is what y'all need to keep in mind next time somebody like Bob tells you that registration is not so bad. This!
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My wife and I really want to get out of this state.
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was reading a comment on another forum. The responder was crowing about the victory, the smashing blow to the Safe Act. He was talking about the only part of the act to be overturned, the part about allowing only 7 rounds in an existing 10 round magazine. The judge's rational for his decision is ludicrous, and could well be the basis for a higher court to stuff his decision.
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The good people of NY state, what few there are, need to start fitting some politicians for some chicago/cement overshoes. There are a lot of decent hard-working people here in NY and I think you will be surprised that a goodly number will not register their "assault weapons" and defy the law. NY better start to build lots of prisons to put us all. I hear a lot of people planning on buying their ammo out of state and there are a number of gun mfg here that either have or are planning on moving out of the state. Nice job Cuomo (never liked or voted for him or his father.) Civil disobedience worked in Canada with their gun registration and it can work here, if we have the stones for it. Unfortunately there are not enough of you descent hard working NYer's to make the changes needed, if there were your state wouldn't wear the liberal colors. Good luck out there!!
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If the government knows what you have, whether it be guns, gold or food, it is subject to their confiscation. This is what y'all need to keep in mind next time somebody like Bob tells you that registration is not so bad. Bob is quasi-government employee although he'll vehemently deny it.
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If the government knows what you have, whether it be guns, gold or food, it is subject to their confiscation. This is what y'all need to keep in mind next time somebody like Bob tells you that registration is not so bad. Bob is quasi-government employee although he'll vehemently deny it. You have to be an Officer Of The Court to be a member of a state bar, so you are correct. Quasi Government Official would be an appropriate term, since the courts constitute the core of the judiciary branch of government.
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The good people of NY state, what few there are, need to start fitting some politicians for some chicago/cement overshoes. There are a lot of decent hard-working people here in NY and I think you will be surprised that a goodly number will not register their "assault weapons" and defy the law. NY better start to build lots of prisons to put us all. I hear a lot of people planning on buying their ammo out of state and there are a number of gun mfg here that either have or are planning on moving out of the state. Nice job Cuomo (never liked or voted for him or his father.) Civil disobedience worked in Canada with their gun registration and it can work here, if we have the stones for it. Unfortunately there are not enough of you descent hard working NYer's to make the changes needed, if there were your state wouldn't wear the liberal colors. Good luck out there!! Oh there are plenty of us upstate of NYC. If we could just lose that parasite, NY State would have a different reputation. There is a lot of that rugged individualism spirit in the Adirondacks, Catskills and the farmland in Western NY. The county I live in is just 90 miles NW of the city but has been very much a conservative Republican stronghold. Our county gov't has come out against the law, certain rural sherrif dept. has been critical of the law. Here is a link to a NYer and an LEO speaking out against the law. Don't write us off just yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq08zNld6JU
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