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Pretty decent NEF and looks like the glass works too. are you shooting rem thunderbolts? Gunning Stingers,sorted by case luster.
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From a 250yd fireform zero,the reticle will get it to 1300yds+ at "0" elevation...along The Milford.
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Gunning Stingers,sorted by case luster. [/quote]
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Don't laugh! I used Stingers with my CZ 453 when I ran out of elevation with a 20x Super Chicken and rail. Didn't want to use the reticle for holdover, but this would have been the better route. Never thought about sorting by luster though. Maybe this would have helped with schit accuracy from them Stingers? J
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Trying to cover bases for R&D. Orange is 10x,yellow 6x. 22LR,223 Krunchenticker,7-08AI,308 and 7 Whizzum. Next 6x will go on a 308 Krunchenticker,next 10x a Chub 223AI. Mebbe the mail will cooperate tomorrow and more will show. It's ALL about the luster.(grin) In fairness,I opted to go Retrostalgic on the Jarhead Return. So far,so good on the Fixed [bleep] with 2000-ish rds whistled through 'em.
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Tried or going to try any of the HD versions?
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I'd drive a HD 6x,were it an offering...but am largely done with all variables.
When the dust settles,a scope is just a place I keep my crosshairs until I need 'um. I've less than zero interest in eyefhukking schit through a rifle scope(ANY rifle scope) and have looonnnngggggggg been at ease in the transition from bino's to crosshairs.
Gimme rugged reliability and great erector tracking................
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Schit...got sidetracked polishin' feed rails on a 22-250AI,loadin' K-Hornet and scopin' a 39A.
Yellow is 6x's,orange is 10x's and I'll not be looking for more X's. Whizzum is yellow and 6x,which is well beyond cheatin'. Can see myself stocking up on 6x's,with a dozen or so,for giggles.
Haven't really throwed 'em around "that" much...but nothin' is "mint".(grin)
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'Nother showed yesterday. MOA erector(162MOA available) and standard fare Mildot Reticle(which has always sucked ass). Decided to slum it aboard a slumming 308. The MilQuad reticle is sooooooooooo where it's at. Ran outta yellow tape,for some reason.(grin)
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Schit...no yeller tape to be found,so red it is in regards to MOA/Mil Fixed [bleep]. Got Skinners loaded and will see how things track,here directly,after lunch. Gona be another rough day.(grin)
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I'd drive a HD 6x,were it an offering...but am largely done with all variables.
When the dust settles,a scope is just a place I keep my crosshairs until I need 'um. I've less than zero interest in eyefhukking schit through a rifle scope(ANY rifle scope) and have looonnnngggggggg been at ease in the transition from bino's to crosshairs.
Gimme rugged reliability and great erector tracking................
I'm with you on the 6x HD. If they offered that I'd be all over one. I have the 16x I bought for long range play and load development. For those purposes it works fine but it has the most critical eyebox I've experienced and glare can be quite bad as the sun goes down. The terrain where I hunt now is so open, I'm thinking I could easily run a 10x HD so may give one of those a whirl. Currently running a Vortex 4-16 HST. Glass is much better than the 16x SS and, so far, it has not let me down tracking or RTZ but I am well aware of the SS having a reputation for being more reliable. Knew that going in and figure if the HS-T pukes I'll use that legendary Vortex customer service and then give something else a try... John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Wellllll...given even a passing thunk,a guy KNOWS going in,that a 16x 40mm is gona be dim and critical,as a minimum.(grin) That no matter who makes it,not that they's all equal. BT/DT. I've not shot the 4-16x HST,but the 30mm 4-16x capped HS,is a [bleep] POS. As Utility Glass goes,10x is my ceiling,because when you exceed it...the concessions arrive in non-lineal fashion.
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Anybody ever put one of these heavy bastids on a 452?
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I have a SWFA SS MRAD 16x on a Salvage BVSS .308. Works well, simple, solid and priced right. I can't afford $1000 for one scope and I have other rifles for hunting. Only been used for playing during bright summer days so hasn't been Battle-Tested. If I were to buy another I'd get a 10x.
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Anybody ever put one of these heavy bastids on a 452? SLM, I had a 20x Super Chicken on a 453. Wish I had a better pic for ya, but this is it. CZ453 Rimfire Tech 20 MOA rail Warne rings backwards-ass pod The 20x was dim, but I knew that before buying it. At the time (2009) the 16x was really popular. I think dudes wanted more than 10x, but brighter image than the 20x. Even with the dim image, I shot the schit out of the set-up. Lots of rounds fired learning to read the wind and tons of fun shooting a 22lr at 200-300+ yards. Even more fun when the marine layer and fog roll in to help "read the wind". That CZ and scope are long gone, but just thinking about it makes me want to put another Super Chicken on top of a rimfire. Next time I'd go 6x, 10x, or 3-15x. Have a 3-15x sitting in the box right now.
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Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
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Was just doing a weight extrapolation,for the girls...using some knowed quantities. 6x42 non-A/O butt nekked...11.4 ounces. 6x42 A/O butt nekked...13.2 ounces. 6x42 Fixed [bleep] butt nekked...20.9 ounces. I'd not begin to think of goin' past 10x and pulled a Mk4 M1 10x Leupie offa my Anschutz,to accept same and am beyond delighted...due the extry range afforded the S/S. Go DIP 25MOA extended rail,Warne Maxima low's and 10x MilQuad on the CZ.
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i have a fixed 10x on a cz455. it also sees knock around use as a test scope that gets moved from rifle to rifle. i've been very happy with is thus far, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone looking for the features it offers in the price range. for the money, i feel they are hard to beat.
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Boxer, Maybe I missed it in an earlier post, but are you just experimenting with the SS scopes, or are you replacing your Leupolds?
I think I read in one of your posts that you were a big fan of the 6X Leupolds. Are you keeping those for hunting and just using these as target scopes, or do you plan on packing the extra weight of the SS hunting?
You mentioned you are getting away from variables. Are you just being careful or have you had problems with them? Thank you.
For those of hunting the SS scopes, are the turrets getting moved on you when you don't intend them to? I hunted a scope with an exposed elevation turret and hated it. It got moved on my pack, in alders, coming out of the case, etc.
My favorite hunting scopes are the Leupold 3-9, 2.8-8, and 3.5-10. I have been thinking of trying an SS just to see what everyone is talking about. My main concern is what all that weight will do to a hunting rifle that is under 7 naked. Then I worry about the turrets moving, then I worry (considering the SS 3-9 and 3-15) if the FF plane reticle is too small at low power in dim light and if it covers too much of the target at high magnification.
Would someone who has hunted, not just shot at the range, with these scopes mind sharing their thoughts on those issues?
One more thing, the SS are super reliable, so why use the fixed over the 3-9?
Thanks again.
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