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Just looked in 3 different cities and found zero 22lr ammo. Ask one guy and he said he used to get about 60 cases per year, last year he got 16. This was after a rep told him that he was getting the same amount of ammo as he always had and that people are just hoarding. What a bunch of Bull - this is just .22 ammo, what gives?

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Stupid [bleep]'s buy it for 2x the price it's supposed to be. So greedy classless [bleep] get it all bought up and scalp other with the price

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You can find all you want to buy on Gunbrokers


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....... Yeah, at the "bargin" (asking) price of $100 +/- for a 500 round bulk pack that was $20 a year ago. It's cheaper to shoot/reload centerfire. -TomT


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Ammo is out there just look for it. Just last week I purchased three bricks of Wolf Target from Champions. But the prices you remember seeing on the shelf in years past are history.


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I remember buy wolf target for $20/500 , but the first ammo scare ruined that along with when the "secret" got out how good the cheap wolf .22 ammo was . Snowwolf my point precicsely!!

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there's one thing the people buying up all the .22 ammo aren't doing, and that is shooting it. thats for GD sure


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This shortage is being caused by the ammo companies I believe. When places like Midway, walmart, cabelas, etc. can not get ammo something fishy is going on. I have been told companies have a higher profit margin on centerfire ammo, 17 HMR, 22 mag, etc and are making more of that since people are still going to buy something.

I usually buy 3-4 cases of rimfire a year and have not bought but a 1K since the panic. I know guys that bought 5-10 cases a year that also have not bought any. Think of all the thousands of other benchrest shooters that bought cases upon cases of ammo every year that have bought nothing in the last 14 months. That's a lot of ammo to be sold 1 to 3 boxes at a time.

I called a place yesterday that sold American eagle for $169 a case. It then went to $229 case and now it's going to $290 a case. They did let me order the old price of $229 a case so I ordered a few cases. They told me 4-12 month expected delivery time.

I don't believe they are making as much rimfire ammo as they have in years past.

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Its all profiteering bull chitt! Find a commodity in demand, create a shortage, raise the prices, lock it in--then blame some body else. Pretty much explains how are government is operated also. Talked to CCI last week--CS said they were producing 3 million .22 rds A DAY x 7 days a week. Do the math--Home Land Security ain't buying all this, no matter what you might think. If Wal-Mart Cabelas, etc. can get in 2 cases a day per store--they can get in 20 cases just as easy. All you dummies that are paying $6.00 a box for American Eagle, probably believe that the liberal media tells you nothing but the truth--geez!
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there isn't any conspiracy, it's just the same combination of scalpers and hoarders. ammo manufacturers are attempting to keep up with demand, but the "demand" results from profit motive and hoarding motive, not from actual volume of rimfire shooting. which doesn't really bother me much, it has just made rimfire shooting more difficult and expensive in the short term.


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Originally Posted by n8dawg6
there isn't any conspiracy, it's just the same combination of scalpers and hoarders. ammo manufacturers are attempting to keep up with demand, but the "demand" results from profit motive and hoarding motive, not from actual volume of rimfire shooting. which doesn't really bother me much, it has just made rimfire shooting more difficult and expensive in the short term.


I just don't buy it's the hoarders. The reason being I don't know of anyone that can say they have stocked up 25k rounds since the panic. Everyone I know has bought none or very little since the panic. They would all like to buy a lot but it's not there to be bought.

If CCI is making three million rounds a day that's a billion rounds a year from one company. Then we have Remington, federal, Eley, laupua, etc. With the limits in place it just doesn't add up.

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Originally Posted by DINK
I just don't buy it's the hoarders.


I do. hoarders plus scalpers. ppl who used to buy a brick or two now buy a case or two bc they are panicked. look at any one of the 1,000,000,000 threads on the internets right now where ppl are talking about how they finally have 10,000 mini mags in their closet and they hope it'll be enough for a little while.

coterminously, you have groups of buzzards that are circling the local wal-marts, etc., to buy all the supply up as soon as it hits the shelf. its the same thing as if you had enough ppl going to the gas stations in town and filling up cans until it was all gone as soon as the truck had come and pumped it in.

the manufacturers have zero incentive to be going anything less than full-bore on the production scale. they are selling 100% of the product produced. thus, more product produced, more profit.


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I agree scalpers and the people dumb enough to pay their prices. If they can keep selling it at twice what they paid for it, what incentive is there for them to stop buying it all up?

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I hate to say it but it's like gas, when they found out you will pay for it why change, I doubt that 22 will come down to the good ole days, and we did this to ourselfs, just my 2 cents.

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Stupid [bleep]'s buy it for 2x the price it's supposed to be. So greedy classless [bleep] get it all bought up and scalp other with the price


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Originally Posted by ldholton
Stupid [bleep]'s buy it for 2x the price it's supposed to be. So greedy classless [bleep] get it all bought up and scalp other with the price


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Prices in stores here are still normal (when there's anything on the shelves) . Too bad all I can find is hollow points.

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Originally Posted by n8dawg6
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I just don't buy it's the hoarders.


coterminously, you have groups of buzzards that are circling the local wal-marts, etc., to buy all the supply up as soon as it hits the shelf. its the same thing as if you had enough ppl going to the gas stations in town and filling up cans until it was all gone as soon as the truck had come and pumped it in.

the manufacturers have zero incentive to be going anything less than full-bore on the production scale. they are selling 100% of the product produced. thus, more product produced, more profit.
There is a lardass fireman and his cronies (mother in law, retarded nephew, ssi sucking trailer park neighbors) that all hover over the counter at 5am. I gave up trying to score some that way. They are there every random time I pop in at 7am. By then, all of them have red swollen ankles from their flaring diubeetus. So they must be there EVERYTIME wind gets out that a delivery is loaded with 22ammo.

whatever, I hope he goes flat ass broke trying to hoard all that crap

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Hell I'd love to be a hoarder - last time I found any ammo was at Walmart, they would only allow 3) 100 packs of CCI mini-mags per person. So, I bought my 3 packs and have been very careful about shooting them up. If I could have bought 10 I sure as heck would have. I never considered keeping 10,000 rounds in my house before this all happened, but now - when I can I'm going to stockpile. All I need is 1,000 rounds a year, but I sure would like to have a couple years cushion.


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but now - when I can I'm going to stockpile. All I need is 1,000 rounds a year, but I sure would like to have a couple years cushion.


I'm tellin ya ... this mentality is part of why there is a shortage.

not criticizing either, I don't blame you or anyone else for how they spend their money. but when people ask "why can't i find any .22's?", this is one of the big reasons why.


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Nationwide, the number of gun owners has more than quadrupled since Obama was elected. almost all of them buy at least one .22, and being new shooters are quite eager to shoot.

I know of at least 2 guys who never had any interest or inclination to shoot that are now convinced that a zombie hoard is imminent.
One, a nephew, now owns more guns than I do and has become a bit of a fanatic.


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