Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire DUI checkpoints? Your state have them?

You'll go to jail.

Make bail.

Go to court.

Case will be thrown out. But don't worry, it will only cost you about $5,000.00, a night or three in county (depending what day they decided you needed to be questioned for no reason) and enough stress to make your hair white.

But hey bro, if it saves one life...


Travis

Years ago here in Oregon there were all kinds of check stations. Openings of game and fish seasons, DUI, etc. Due to some court case they have all been eliminated.

Edited: I just remembered. Oregon is trying to slow the spread of water related invasive plants and critters. If one is towing a boat, he may at times have to pull off for a look at the bottom/bilge etc. If they find an issue they're equipped with a pressure washing system and some chemicals. Likely a lost cause over the long run, as no one is inspecting ducks, geese, otter, beaver etc.

Guys who drive drunk object.

Yup, we have em and i don't mind, only a dumbphuuck drives drunk or stoned.

Gunner

Last time I went into one was outside of Salinas, 1997.


Moving to Santa Cruz, driving a 24 ft. Ryder truck, around midnight. I rolled down the window and CHP officer asks, "Where you headed tonight?


"Santa Cruz.." I answered back.

With a laugh, cop asks, "How much dope you got in the back of that thing?

I thought it was pretty f�cking funny. And got a cool fridge magnet as a parting gift.

My niece was in a coma for a month because of a stupid khhunt that didn't know what a red light meant.

Yet I still oppose the stopping of American citizens just so they can be questioned as to whether or not they know what the [bleep] a red light means.



Travis

Good.


Travis

Never been stopped. But say if you pass what's the prize?

FREEDOM!!!!!

Gunner

Beg your pardon sir but the state has no [bleep] business stopping citizens without cause.


Travis

http://www.duicheckpoints.net/areduicheckpointsunconstitutional.html

When you get your license, you give consent to be stopped, Trav.

I'm not sure a citizen can sign away a right. That was what I was saying.

Actually most say. "Yeah, you caught me" and plead guilty. For first offense at least. Night in jail before first appearance, around $500 plus attorney's fees, 30 days suspended on conditions including alcohol abuse school, no drinking/drugs possibly with daily testing paid for by the offender, no trouble with the law, possibly vehicle impound fees. Work permit usually granted. Pretty good slap on the head to get their attention.

That's the same argument I hear when people opine about a state telling a private business owner who can, and who cannot smoke tobacco in their building.

Does the state have the right to tell that business owner who can and cannot smoke in the building that business owner owns? No. They do not.

Does the state have the right to stop me and my family for no reason? In the name of "public safety?" [bleep] no they don't.


Travis

Bravo. Keep those checkpoints comin'. Might save one life.


Travis

YouTube has some interesting dui checkpoint refusal vids, which is what prompted the question.

I think it was Ben Franklin that said:

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

I'm thinking you give consent to be stopped with PC. Meaning probable cause.

You do not give consent to be stopped for no reason. DUI checkpoints involve citizens being stopped without cause.


Travis

Looking forward to all the campfire members that will oppose the checkpoints in NY and CT when they try and locate all those "unregistered" firearms.


Travis

The 4th protects you against unreasonable searches and seizures. If you seize me without a reason, that is by definition....UN-reasonable.

Goood, bless Amerrrica!

Laughin'....



Travis