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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal

Israel has been stealing nuclear secrets and covertly making bombs since the 1950s. And western governments, including Britain and the US, turn a blind eye. But how can we expect Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions if the Israelis won't come clean?

Deep beneath desert sands, an embattled Middle Eastern state has built a covert nuclear bomb, using technology and materials provided by friendly powers or stolen by a clandestine network of agents. It is the stuff of pulp thrillers and the sort of narrative often used to characterise the worst fears about the Iranian nuclear programme. In reality, though, neither US nor British intelligence believe Tehran has decided to build a bomb, and Iran�s atomic projects are under constant international monitoring.

The exotic tale of the bomb hidden in the desert is a true story, though. It�s just one that applies to another country. In an extraordinary feat of subterfuge, Israel managed to assemble an entire underground nuclear arsenal � now estimated at 80 warheads, on a par with India and Pakistan � and even tested a bomb nearly half a century ago, with a minimum of international outcry or even much public awareness of what it was doing.

Despite the fact that the Israel�s nuclear programme has been an open secret since a disgruntled technician, Mordechai Vanunu, blew the whistle on it in 1986, the official Israeli position is still never to confirm or deny its existence.

When the former speaker of the Knesset, Avraham Burg, broke the taboo last month, declaring Israeli possession of both nuclear and chemical weapons and describing the official non-disclosure policy as �outdated and childish� a rightwing group formally called for a police investigation for treason.

Meanwhile, western governments have played along with the policy of �opacity� by avoiding all mention of the issue. In 2009, when a veteran Washington reporter, Helen Thomas, asked Barack Obama in the first month of his presidency if he knew of any country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons, he dodged the trapdoor by saying only that he did not wish to �speculate�.

UK governments have generally followed suit. Asked in the House of Lords in November about Israeli nuclear weapons, Baroness Warsi answered tangentially. �Israel has not declared a nuclear weapons programme. We have regular discussions with the government of Israel on a range of nuclear-related issues,� the minister said. �The government of Israel is in no doubt as to our views. We encourage Israel to become a state party to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty [NPT].�

But through the cracks in this stone wall, more and more details continue to emerge of how Israel built its nuclear weapons from smuggled parts and pilfered technology.

The tale serves as a historical counterpoint to today�s drawn-out struggle over Iran�s nuclear ambitions. The parallels are not exact � Israel, unlike Iran, never signed up to the 1968 NPT so could not violate it. But it almost certainly broke a treaty banning nuclear tests, as well as countless national and international laws restricting the traffic in nuclear materials and technology.

The list of nations that secretly sold Israel the material and expertise to make nuclear warheads, or who turned a blind eye to its theft, include today�s staunchest campaigners against proliferation: the US, France, Germany, Britain and even Norway.

Meanwhile, Israeli agents charged with buying fissile material and state-of-the-art technology found their way into some of the most sensitive industrial establishments in the world. This daring and remarkably successful spy ring, known as Lakam, the Hebrew acronym for the innocuous-sounding Science Liaison Bureau, included such colourful figures as Arnon Milchan, a billionaire Hollywood producer behind such hits as Pretty Woman, LA Confidential and 12 Years a Slave, who finally admitted his role last month.

�Do you know what it�s like to be a twentysomething-year-old kid [and] his country lets him be James Bond? Wow! The action! That was exciting,� he said in an Israeli documentary.

Milchan�s life story is colourful, and unlikely enough to be the subject of one of the blockbusters he bankrolls. In the documentary, Robert de Niro recalls discussing Milchan�s role in the illicit purchase of nuclear-warhead triggers. �At some point I was asking something about that, being friends, but not in an accusatory way. I just wanted to know,� De Niro says. �And he said: yeah I did that. Israel�s my country.�

Milchan was not shy about using Hollywood connections to help his shadowy second career. At one point, he admits in the documentary, he used the lure of a visit to actor Richard Dreyfuss�s home to get a top US nuclear scientist, Arthur Biehl, to join the board of one of his companies.

According to Milchan�s biography, by Israeli journalists Meir Doron and Joseph Gelman, he was recruited in 1965 by Israel�s current president, Shimon Peres, who he met in a Tel Aviv nightclub (called Mandy�s, named after the hostess and owner�s wife Mandy Rice-Davies, freshly notorious for her role in the Profumo sex scandal). Milchan, who then ran the family fertiliser company, never looked back, playing a central role in Israel�s clandestine acquisition programme.

He was responsible for securing vital uranium-enrichment technology, photographing centrifuge blueprints that a German executive had been bribed into temporarily �mislaying� in his kitchen. The same blueprints, belonging to the European uranium enrichment consortium, Urenco, were stolen a second time by a Pakistani employee, Abdul Qadeer Khan, who used them to found his country�s enrichment programme and to set up a global nuclear smuggling business, selling the design to Libya, North Korea and Iran.

For that reason, Israel�s centrifuges are near-identical to Iran�s, a convergence that allowed Israeli to try out a computer worm, codenamed Stuxnet, on its own centrifuges before unleashing it on Iran in 2010.

Arguably, Lakam�s exploits were even more daring than Khan�s. In 1968, it organised the disappearance of an entire freighter full of uranium ore in the middle of the Mediterranean. In what became known as the Plumbat affair, the Israelis used a web of front companies to buy a consignment of uranium oxide, known as yellowcake, in Antwerp. The yellowcake was concealed in drums labelled �plumbat�, a lead derivative, and loaded onto a freighter leased by a phony Liberian company. The sale was camouflaged as a transaction between German and Italian companies with help from German officials, reportedly in return for an Israeli offer to help the Germans with centrifuge technology.

When the ship, the Scheersberg A, docked in Rotterdam, the entire crew was dismissed on the pretext that the vessel had been sold and an Israeli crew took their place. The ship sailed into the Mediterranean where, under Israeli naval guard, the cargo was transferred to another vessel.

US and British documents declassified last year also revealed a previously unknown Israeli purchase of about 100 tons of yellowcake from Argentina in 1963 or 1964, without the safeguards typically used in nuclear transactions to prevent the material being used in weapons.

Israel had few qualms about proliferating nuclear weapons knowhow and materials, giving South Africa�s apartheid regime help in developing its own bomb in the 1970s in return for 600 tons of yellowcake.

In Dimona, French engineers poured in to help build Israel a nuclear reactor and a far more secret reprocessing plant capable of separating plutonium from spent reactor fuel. This was the real giveaway that Israel's nuclear programme was aimed at producing weapons.

By the end of the 50s, there were 2,500 French citizens living in Dimona, transforming it from a village to a cosmopolitan town, complete with French lyc�es and streets full of Renaults, and yet the whole endeavour was conducted under a thick veil of secrecy. The American investigative journalist Seymour Hersh wrote in his book The Samson Option: "French workers at Dimona were forbidden to write directly to relatives and friends in France and elsewhere, but sent mail to a phony post-office box in Latin America."

The British were kept out of the loop, being told at different times that the huge construction site was a desert grasslands research institute and a manganese processing plant. The Americans, also kept in the dark by both Israel and France, flew U2 spy planes over Dimona in an attempt to find out what they were up to.

The Israelis admitted to having a reactor but insisted it was for entirely peaceful purposes. The spent fuel was sent to France for reprocessing, they claimed, even providing film footage of it being supposedly being loaded onto French freighters. Throughout the 60s it flatly denied the existence of the underground reprocessing plant in Dimona that was churning out plutonium for bombs

Israel refused to countenance visits by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), so in the early 1960s President Kennedy demanded they accept American inspectors. US physicists were dispatched to Dimona but were given the run-around from the start. Visits were never twice-yearly as had been agreed with Kennedy and were subject to repeated postponements. The US physicists sent to Dimona were not allowed to bring their own equipment or collect samples. The lead American inspector, Floyd Culler, an expert on plutonium extraction, noted in his reports that there were newly plastered and painted walls in one of the buildings. It turned out that before each American visit, the Israelis had built false walls around the row of lifts that descended six levels to the subterranean reprocessing plant.

As more and more evidence of Israel's weapons programme emerged, the US role progressed from unwitting dupe to reluctant accomplice. In 1968 the CIA director Richard Helms told President Johnson that Israel had indeed managed to build nuclear weapons and that its air force had conducted sorties to practise dropping them.

The timing could not have been worse. The NPT, intended to prevent too many nuclear genies from escaping from their bottles, had just been drawn up and if news broke that one of the supposedly non-nuclear-weapons states had secretly made its own bomb, it would have become a dead letter that many countries, especially Arab states, would refuse to sign.

The Johnson White House decided to say nothing, and the decision was formalised at a 1969 meeting between Richard Nixon and Golda Meir, at which the US president agreed to not to pressure Israel into signing the NPT, while the Israeli prime minister agreed her country would not be the first to "introduce" nuclear weapons into the Middle East and not do anything to make their existence public.

In fact, US involvement went deeper than mere silence. At a meeting in 1976 that has only recently become public knowledge, the CIA deputy director Carl Duckett informed a dozen officials from the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission that the agency suspected some of the fissile fuel in Israel's bombs was weapons-grade uranium stolen under America's nose from a processing plant in Pennsylvania.

Not only was an alarming amount of fissile material going missing at the company, Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation (Numec), but it had been visited by a veritable who's-who of Israeli intelligence, including Rafael Eitan, described by the firm as an Israeli defence ministry "chemist", but, in fact, a top Mossad operative who went on to head Lakam.

"It was a shock. Everyody was open-mouthed," recalls Victor Gilinsky, who was one of the American nuclear officials briefed by Duckett. "It was one of the most glaring cases of diverted nuclear material but the consequences appeared so awful for the people involved and for the US than nobody really wanted to find out what was going on."

The investigation was shelved and no charges were made.

A few years later, on 22 September 1979, a US satellite, Vela 6911, detected the double-flash typical of a nuclear weapon test off the coast of South Africa. Leonard Weiss, a mathematician and an expert on nuclear proliferation, was working as a Senate advisor at the time and after being briefed on the incident by US intelligence agencies and the country's nuclear weapons laboratories, he became convinced a nuclear test, in contravention to the Limited Test Ban Treaty, had taken place.

It was only after both the Carter and then the Reagan administrations attempted to gag him on the incident and tried to whitewash it with an unconvincing panel of enquiry, that it dawned on Weiss that it was the Israelis, rather than the South Africans, who had carried out the detonation.

"I was told it would create a very serious foreign policy issue for the US, if I said it was a test. Someone had let something off that US didn't want anyone to know about," says Weiss.

Israeli sources told Hersh the flash picked up by the Vela satellite was actually the third of a series of Indian Ocean nuclear tests that Israel conducted in cooperation with South Africa.

"It was a f-uck-up," one source told him. "There was a storm and we figured it would block Vela, but there was a gap in the weather � a window � and Vela got blinded by the flash."


The US policy of silence continues to this day, even though Israel appears to be continuing to trade on the nuclear black market, albeit at much reduced volumes. In a paper on the illegal trade in nuclear material and technology published in October, the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) noted: "Under US pressure in the 1980s and early 1990s, Israel � decided to largely stop its illicit procurement for its nuclear weapons programme. Today, there is evidence that Israel may still make occasional illicit procurements � US sting operations and legal cases show this."

Avner Cohen, the author of two books on Israel's bomb, said that policy of opacity in both Israel and in Washington is kept in place now largely by inertia. "At the political level, no one wants to deal with it for fear of opening a Pandora's box. It has in many ways become a burden for the US, but people in Washington, all the way up to Obama will not touch it, because of the fear it could compromise the very basis of the Israeli-US understanding."

In the Arab world and beyond, there is growing impatience with the skewed nuclear status quo. Egypt in particular has threatened to walk out of the NPT unless there is progress towards creating a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East. The western powers promised to stage a conference on the proposal in 2012 but it was called off, largely at America's behest, to reduce the pressure on Israel to attend and declare its nuclear arsenal.

"Somehow the kabuki goes on," Weiss says. "If it is admitted Israel has nuclear weapons at least you can have an honest discussion. It seems to me it's very difficult to get a resolution of the Iran issue without being honest about that."



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According to friends in the intelligence community, Israel has had the bomb for decades, and did test it as described.


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Originally Posted by denton
According to friends in the intelligence community, Israel has had the bomb for decades, and did test it as described.


If they have had nukes for all these years, when's the last time they've used one?


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Originally Posted by Roundup
Originally Posted by denton
According to friends in the intelligence community, Israel has had the bomb for decades, and did test it as described.


If they have had nukes for all these years, when's the last time they've used one?



Israel is just holding all thier nukes back for the day that one of thier neighbors pushes them too far. LOOK OUT WHEN THAT DAY COMES!! knowing Israel's don't mess around policy they will wipe thier enemy off the face of the earth!


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They tested them in the South Indian Ocean where there is virtually no shipping. We discovered two nuke explosions there in the 1970's. Can you blame them? 6 million exterminated during WWII, and the Arabs threatening to exterminate them. Yes, they own a lot of banks and the banking system. Have you ever know any Jews on welfare? or food stamps?

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Originally Posted by denton
According to friends in the intelligence community, Israel has had the bomb for decades, and did test it as described.
Absolutely. You'd need to be naive in the extreme not to realize this. It's been a "public secret" for decades.

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Let me educate you since via your avatar and this post I assume you are a confederate fan. No judgement. But did you know the first openly jewish cabinet member in america was Judah P. Benjamin who was at different times the secretary of war and secretary of state of the confederation? I like to tell southern confederate fans this from time to time smile Anti jewish sentiment was not widely prevalent during the civil war in the south, that came much later in the 20th century amongst KKK members.

Also the nukes thing is not really a secret it is widely known that they have them. And they have them for good reason.

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I thought everyone knew they had nukes. Tom Clancy alluded to it in Sum of all fears. Hasbeen


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Isreal has nukes
This is a surprise??

Wouldn't you have them if you were in their position?

They will use them when they deem it necessary.
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I had no idea that Israeli nukes were a secret ! Good thing I didn't let that slip in a passing conversation.
Regardless of if I feel one way or another about the Jewish race, I have never heard of Iseral stating that they wanted to wipe another country off the map or turn their people and sand to glass.
The Iranian government calls the US the great Satan and Iseral the little Satan.
Iran (the .gov of Iran) calls for the removal of Iseral from the face of the earth.
Can the big Satan be far behind? Fu3ck the ragheads.
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I have zero problem with it. Especially since they have obviously shown restraint in using them.

Fair has nothing to do with reality. Since when was an even playing field a good idea when it comes to defending a country? To hell with Iran. And most other middle east countries. And that's exactly where they'll end up if they test Isreal too much.

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The reason that Israeli and American lawmakers dance around the reality of Israeli nukes is that currently all US military assistance to Israel is illegal if Israel is acknowledged to possess nukes and no waiver signed. Acknowledging Israeli nukes would involve acknowledging past and ongoing willful violation of US laws.

�The Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 as amended by the Symington Amendment of 1976 and the Glenn Amendment of 1977 prohibit US military assistance to countries that acquire or transfer nuclear reprocessing technology outside of international nonproliferation regimes. Israel, unlike Iran, is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. If Congress wishes to provide US taxpayer funded foreign aid to Israel in compliance with US law, it may do so only under a special waiver from the office of the President as in the case for Pakistan.

Upholding the Symington Amendment could be an early litmus test as Congress and Executive branch strive to restore public confidence in the aftermath of the US invasion of Iraq and global financial crisis. According to IRmep director of research Grant F. Smith, "Governance depends on rule of law-- it is imperiled if government openly flouts important laws. It is no longer acceptable for Congress or the President to invoke 'strategic ambiguity,' a practice whereby US government officials publicly pretend to the American people that Israel possesses no nuclear weapons."

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-under-symington-amendment-61997392.html



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Originally Posted by EWY
I have never heard of Iseral stating that they wanted to wipe another country off the map.
Nor has Iran said that. In believing that Iran said that, you've fallen victim to propaganda. Ahmadinejad said that he predicts a future for the Middle East free of Zionism. That was mistranslated into English in the American press, in an effort to enrage Americans against Iran, as "We will wipe Israel off the map."

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Originally Posted by gonehuntin
The reason that Israeli and American lawmakers dance around the reality of Israeli nukes is that currently all US military assistance to Israel is illegal if Israel is acknowledged to possess nukes and no waiver signed. Acknowledging Israeli nukes would involve acknowledging past and ongoing willful violation of US laws.

�The Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 as amended by the Symington Amendment of 1976 and the Glenn Amendment of 1977 prohibit US military assistance to countries that acquire or transfer nuclear reprocessing technology outside of international nonproliferation regimes. Israel, unlike Iran, is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. If Congress wishes to provide US taxpayer funded foreign aid to Israel in compliance with US law, it may do so only under a special waiver from the office of the President as in the case for Pakistan.

Upholding the Symington Amendment could be an early litmus test as Congress and Executive branch strive to restore public confidence in the aftermath of the US invasion of Iraq and global financial crisis. According to IRmep director of research Grant F. Smith, "Governance depends on rule of law-- it is imperiled if government openly flouts important laws. It is no longer acceptable for Congress or the President to invoke 'strategic ambiguity,' a practice whereby US government officials publicly pretend to the American people that Israel possesses no nuclear weapons."

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-under-symington-amendment-61997392.html

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Not only has Israel not used them, they haven't even threatened anybody with using them. Unlike certain of their "neighbors."

Keeping the official position is their best course because that makes everyone guess. An enemy will not know for sure until they do something very stupid, and then they'll only know the answer for a nanosecond.


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The Jews killed Kennedy... and Jesus?


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Let's just hope that Israel continues to be an ally, although the current .gov does seems to be making it harder by the day. We all know her neighbors are not our friend.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by EWY
I have never heard of Iseral stating that they wanted to wipe another country off the map.
Nor has Iran said that.



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