|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6 |
If you're too stupid to understand my statement,then you're too stupid to understand the explanation.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 13,860
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 13,860 |
To quote Tupac "....ladies that make the babies
And since a man can't make one, He has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one"
Typical wanna-be "man-ho" pat answer. Very thoughtful and introspective.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6 |
You have to laugh at this jackass,Georgie in SuckDickville,who uses the rhetoric of an ignorant dead rapper,in a piteous attempt to illustrate his point.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776 |
Personally, I don't think a man should have any legal or ethical say-so in the decision making process for an abortion.
Culturally, abortion is a matter of opinion. Sodomy of young boys is grossly frowned upon in the USA, however it is culturally practiced and accepted elsewhere.
Bribery, DUI, speeding, prostitution, drug use, etc are all viewed in a similar dichotomy.
Who are you to say what is right or wrong?
From a religious perspective, 'at the end of the day' you have to realize that your beliefs are no more or less absolute than your neighbor, or a muslim, or a budist, or a practicing member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You might find an arbitrary justification in archaic translations, however it would be for your own mental masturbation.
It is a tough question that will never be concretely answered by mortal men. Deal with it
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776 |
If you're too stupid to understand my statement,then you're too stupid to understand the explanation. You have to laugh at this jackass,Georgie in SuckDickville,who uses the rhetoric of an ignorant dead rapper,in a piteous attempt to illustrate his point. Oh my, did I strike a nerve? ![[Linked Image]](http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa32/Relic_123/tumblr_m140vycDbs1rqfhi2o1_400.gif)
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,250
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,250 |
I agree, abortion is murder. However is murder ever justified? We murdered someone in Texas last night and I don't feel one bit bad about that murder.
Is saving a mother's life by aborting a life anything but choosing one murder over another except in this case only one side can vote?
Many folks find this an easy subject to decide but I do not. I am not sure there is a 100% right answer.
BTW, My SIL was raped. The result of that rape, my nephew, is one of the finest young men I know and is just starting his medical practice to help folks in pain and suffering. If you read the Bible it defines murder as the shedding of innocent blood. Given a lawyer's inclination to pick at nits you could get bogged down in semantics until the Lord's return.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6 |
Personally, I don't think a man should have any legal or ethical say-so in the decision making process for an abortion. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Who do you think decided the Roe v. Wade decision?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 24,239
Campfire Ranger
|
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 24,239 |
"Pulling the gang rape card is weak."
In a DEBATE, it's a perfectly good card, maybe the best one, in response to the "partial birth abortion" card.
Without intending to, you have joined me in the theoretical middle ground of the issue.
The zealots on the "right to life" side see this exception as a slippery slope.
By virtue of having been born in 1941, I remember well when the legislation you describe was settled law, and folks were divided on other issues, but not this one.
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6 |
Oh my, did I strike a nerve?
That is about as gay a post as I've ever have read here. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776 |
You have to laugh at this jackass,Georgie in SuckDickville,who uses the rhetoric of an ignorant dead rapper,in a piteous attempt to illustrate his point. Deceased and prolific are not mutually exclusive. Simply because a reference is atypical to your ethnocentric world views doesn't discount any wisdom you gloss over.
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776 |
Oh my, did I strike a nerve?
That is about as gay a post as I've ever have read here. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha. Tisk, Tisk. Ad hominem attacks and logical fallacies. Good day 'sir'.
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776 |
"Pulling the gang rape card is weak."
In a DEBATE, it's a perfectly good card, maybe the best one, in response to the "partial birth abortion" card.
Without intending to, you have joined me in the theoretical middle ground of the issue.
The zealots on the "right to life" side see this exception as a slippery slope.
By virtue of having been born in 1941, I remember well when the legislation you describe was settled law, and folks were divided on other issues, but not this one. Put the kid up for adoption. Problem solved
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6 |
Deceased and prolific are not mutually exclusive. Simply because a reference is atypical to your ethnocentric world views doesn't discount any wisdom you gloss over. Dead is a state that suits this former ass-hole.Prolific ? Prolific at what, nursery school rhymes ? Wisdom ? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You have no idea in what world I live,but please keep posting.Your ideas about wisdom are laughable.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 50,170 Likes: 2
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 50,170 Likes: 2 |
I'm not worried about going to Hell for other people killing thier own kids.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301 |
The Lord said "thou shalt not commit murder", Scott. HE did not say 'Though shalt not Kill', otherwise HE would not have directed the Battle of Jericho and others where HE instructed that ALL the enemy be killed (all, includes Children). He also commanded the elders of the church hunt down and kill a murderer. So, I don't think HE considers Texas's executioners to be murderers. I also don't think HE considers our US Army sniper team to be murderers or those who fought and killed the enemy in Desert Storm, WW1 or WW2.
If He had said we can't kill, deer hunting or using antibiotics would be a sin. We are in full agreement.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 598
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 598 |
Within Chapter Two of the Didache there is this admonition:
"You shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is begotten."
That's good enough for me.
kd
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,866 Likes: 6 |
Tisk, Tisk. Ad hominem attacks and logical fallacies. Good day 'sir'. The second gay post in the same thread.LMAO.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,659
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,659 |
Shouldn't we be debating "when does life begin"?
Here are your options:
1. Conception
2. The "quickening", aka ensoulment or when conscious awareness begins.
3. Birth
If we follow historical legal traditions then the option 2 is the correct answer.
This question, in and of itself, is flawed. Life BEGAN at some point in the past. At what point that happened, and how, is a debate all unto its own. At conception, two living cells combine to CONTINUE life.
Stush
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776 |
Deceased and prolific are not mutually exclusive. Simply because a reference is atypical to your ethnocentric world views doesn't discount any wisdom you gloss over. Dead is a state that suits this former ass-hole.Prolific ? Prolific at what, nursery school rhymes ? Wisdom ? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You have no idea in what world I live,but please keep posting.Your ideas about wisdom are laughable. To paraphrase: I've fought countless times, yet I've never met an adversary who could offer me what we Spartans call " A Beautiful Death." A worthy orator I can only hope, with all the world's warriors gathered against us, there might be one down there who's up to the task I have said good day 'sir'
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,776 |
Within Chapter Two of the Didache there is this admonition:
"You shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is begotten."
That's good enough for me.
kd
I don't view a cherry picked, countlessly translated, ancient soundbite to have any validity in an argument. Doubly so in a modern context.
The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment. � WARREN G. BENNIS
|
|
|
|
|
566 members (22250rem, 1badf350, 260madman, 25aught6, 2500HD, 1234, 66 invisible),
2,472
guests, and
1,283
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,947
Posts18,519,172
Members74,020
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
![[Linked Image]](http://s196.photobucket.com/user/Relic_123/media/tumblr_m140vycDbs1rqfhi2o1_400.gif.html)
