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Any chance you'll be a the Great American Outdoor show in Harrisburg, PA (1-9 Feb)?

prm,

I don't have plans to attend the GAO this year.

I'll PM you.

Nathan

We have a great return policy and have contemplated doing a demo program to those that want to see feel touch. PM if interested.

A lot of the more recent info on the new products is located here

Paradox new products

Here are a few field photos of some of the various configurations.

For note, the packbag used was a 4800 but not the newer one. The newer one is a bit cleaner looking.

Also, yes it was thin snow for ski's. There was some down low and a 4.5 miles total that could be skied. There was some also , skiing with just your shoes on sort of stuff as well. I had no idea what to expect, I doubt anyone had been in there for a couple months, as evidenced by how relaxed the animals were.

4800 , Lid, and Base Talon about 6800 total CI. ~ 4 lbs.


4800 and Lid no compression panel. Lots of oak brush busting. Ski's were lowered to avoid catching on brush.



4800 with Day Talon 1800 and Lid

I talked with Angie in your office the other day about pack specs.. Thanks for adding more info.

That oak brush is mean stuff. I busted through some of that with the Paradox in CO this fall. Next time I find a way around and up above it:)

I don't know if this has been covered, but where are these packs made?

Thanks,
Mike

Grand junction Colorado

Thanks
Kevin

I'm trying to convince myself I need that lid. But I'm having a hard time, even with the picture(and new video on your site) envisioning the practical useable space available in that lid. I know it's like 600 cu.in. but, is it like what you may find on a typical backpack? I have a Dana Design Terraplane and I DO use that space and it is surprising what I can stuff in there. But I don't know the capacity of it so don't know if it can be compared.

Can you give me an example of some typical gear that can be stuffed in there? Or maybe a better idea, how many rolls of toilet paper could you put in there? No, I don't carry multiple rolls with me but it would give me a clear idea of how big that space is.

Snubbie, it's big enough to be usable. The old Dana lid would be comparable I would think.

You could fit a set of packable rain gear and some food, flashlight, etc.

On the TP measuring scale, are we talking two ply double rolls or John Wayne TP?

It is usable. The 600 CI is an under estimate, and based on a couple early production samples that were based on our standard lid. In the end, after using the earlier sample we were not happy with the usability aspect, so we went back to an earlier prototype styling with a focus on usability and trimming weight. I can fit a 65 mm spotter across it, a fair amount of day gear or a puffy. It has one security pocket, which is decent size as well. I'll update information on it soon. The photos shown above are near correct, with some minor styling , mounting , coverage changes. Personally , I found it very usable and lighter than our other lid. Is it the lightest way to get volume ? No the bag is, but I would use it, and find it worthwhile. Keep in mind I have not used a lid in years, as I usually remove them due to how much they weigh.

We've had requests for pics showing bow carry. Enjoy.

Rock Chucker: is that a Day Talon + what size pack?
(in the previous photo with the bow)

Thanks

That is one of the early Day Talons. The production Day Talons look a bit cleaner, but I've got so much long term testing in that one I hate to switch it out.

The pack bag is a 4800 Rolltop, again one of the early models. In that pic it is stuffed with a couple jackets, extra clothes, food, plus a DSLR camera bag, etc.

We've had a few people asking about adjusting and fitting.

Fitting our pack is extremely fast and simple. Torso length can be adjusted while wearing the pack.

Here is a rifle carry solution we've been working on.





The advantages as I see them with this system is that it is detachable, weighs 0.4 oz and it holds the rifle very securely but maintains very fast access.

Also, the rifle's weight is transferred to the pack frame entirely, and the rifle can be accessed and put back without taking the pack off. It doesn't hurt that it utilizes the most dominant rifle carry system existing - the sling you already have.

I'd appreciate thoughts and comments.

Been doing that for years with my external frame packs. It works very well, but doesn't transfer the weight to the hips like the KGB does. It is easier and handier to use than the GB, though, and the rifle carries in a more natural position. Downside is that it isn't quite as secure as the GB.

Jordan, I like this system a lot. I will disagree that it doesn't transfer the rifle weight to the hips. Our pack is very efficient at load transfer to the hips, and placing the rifle on the Gunhook effectively transfers the weight down into the pelvis.

Security is good with this system, while maintaining quick access. An optional buttstock strap will increase security and not impede access by much.

I'm speaking purely from experience with my old external frame packs, having only tried on the Paradox pack in a friend's living room. I did notice how well the waist belt was designed, so I'm sure it transfers the weight to the hips better than my old packs did.

A QR buttstock strap would be skookum. That'd keep the rifle securely in place, almost no matter what position you're in while hiking/scrambling.

I have one ordered ,a 6300 roll top with base talon, vx 33 multicam. I have been using a Gregory for 15+ yrs. and anything over 60 lbs. is unfun. The belt on the Gregory does not stay put ,and I think the lumbar pad could be the culprit. Frame stays and such on the Gregory seem to start "collapsing" after 60 lbs.and there seems there is no way to get it to ride comfortable.