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The only way that cartridge is lacking is in long distance pursuits I suppose. I would think again about that. I have no problem making hits with irons out to 400 yds with my 350. This cartridge has really surprised me. It has moved up as my #1 elk rifle. I really look forward to hunting it this year. I have also been shooting the 200 TTSX at 2,960. They penetrate least of any bullet I have tried but open WIDE. The Nosler 250 Partition feeds and shoots great too. These are leaving the barrel at 2,675 mv, that is next to having a short action 358 Norma.
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That's a purty picture. a .350RM is not a bad way to use an M7
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X-Verminator What action (col) and barrel length are you using to get those figures. Thank you for your time. Any one have you have you done the 350Rem. in a full length (30/06) action with 24 inch. barrel would love to know what can be accomplished with letting it out. Cheers NC SS Win 70 Classic CRF (3.1") .350 Rem Mag. 20" Lilja SS #3 12" twist. NECG Masterpiece front and rear irons. McMillan Compact Swirly. Leupold VX-III 1.5x5X20 Talley QD rings w/levers. Loading Ramshot TAC under both bullets............ X-VERMINATOR
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Mr. Shoemaker, what bullet would you recommend to a client bringing a .350 for brown bear?
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X-Verminator What action (col) and barrel length are you using to get those figures. Thank you for your time. Any one have you have you done the 350Rem. in a full length (30/06) action with 24 inch. barrel would love to know what can be accomplished with letting it out. Cheers NC SS Win 70 Classic CRF (3.1") .350 Rem Mag. 20" Lilja SS #3 12" twist. NECG Masterpiece front and rear irons. McMillan Compact Swirly. Leupold VX-III 1.5x5X20 Talley QD rings w/levers. Loading Ramshot TAC under both bullets............ X-VERMINATOR Very nice!
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That's a great rifle in a lot of ways, about perfect as 350s go. I know what I'd run in that, or at least narrow it down to. It (they) start with "n" and end in either "5" or "0".
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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I am also in the 350 Rem fan club. I have one in a Ruger M77MkII stainless synthetic, warne rings, and a Leupold 2.5-8 VXIII.
I have not killed anything yet...
I currently shoot Barnes 200TTSX over TAC, and have also shot 250 SP Hornadys over IMR4320. I have not modified the rifle other than trigger and it shoots about .75moa with the Barnes and 1.5moa with the Hornadys. I have 75 Nosler 225 partitions and 100 220 Speers I could but probably wont try. I will probably stick to the 200TTSX Barnes for anything, but maybe shoot 250 Hornady or 250 Partitions for brown bear if I had the chance, maybe.
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xverminator Thanks That is a neat package and good figures with the shorter barrel. With 23" barrel would expect about 3k and 2800 or there bouts. cheers NC
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The 338 RCM is a better cartridge, but it appears to be as dead as a doornail.
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That's the cool thing about .358" bores. They don't need much length to achieve top velocities......Something about expansion and bore ratios....yada, yada, yada....
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I like the 250 grain Hornady spire point interlock 250 grain in mine. With a case full of H4895 it shoots very well. I think that load would work on anything in the states.
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I still regret passing up a Ruger boat paddle in .350 a few years ago at a local gun show. Me being spring broke as usual had to pass on a Rem 600 in a Mannlichler stock for $350 at the Palmer Gun Show years ago,,it still haunts me to this day!
I tend to use more than enough gun
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I have several 350s. Remington 600,660 Custom shop Model 7 mannlicher and a xp 100, Great cartridge only thing that holds it back is oal in the remingtons. Got a Ruger that about solves that problem. Will take up to around 3.000 in the mag and chamber. I can load the 180 grain TTSX to just over 3000 fps with RL7 but accuracy is better around 2800 which is more than enough for whitetails at 300 yards which is on the long end where I hunt.
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..another .350 fan here...when I hunt with a rifle it is about all I use. A lot is being said about "getting the most" out of the cartridge. My problem with that is it simply out of the original design concept. The .350/600 was made to be the lightest, shortest reliable "stopper" of its time...and I think that Remington did a real good job at that. There was originally three bullet weights available, 150, 200 and 250 for everything from deer to brown bear. This cartridge was made to compete with the .358 Winchester and that cartridge replaced the .35 Winchester and .348 Winchester both vaulted BIG GAME rounds of their time. If one looks at the three original Remington bullets they were all flat tipped spire points to have the least amount of bullet out of the case and the point protected from recoil. But that was in an action that limited LOA to 2.800". In the ,350 I have always wanted the shortest lightest package possible. I currently have three that fit that criteria and one more that is a little out of the box. The one I have had the longest is a 600 Carbine. For many years it had a Weaver base and 1.5-5 Leupold but since I have four .350s thought it sould be fun to mount an original Leupold 2X M8 IER scope in an original Leupold Detacho Mount. Next oldest is a Ruger 77MKII that came from Alaska. Some young man...19 years old...had the barrel shortened to 18.25", NECG sights put on and then proceeded to sell it on GunBroker. I have no clue why he didn't just sell it there in Alaska other that the gun would not feed from the magazine...but a good smith corrected all that. It wears a TASCO Titan 1.5-6 30mm tube scope in Warne QD mounts. It is the gun that goes on the 4-wheeler and this gun is built like a tank. Next up is a 7KS with 1.75-6 Leupold...if I had only one hunting rifle left this would be it...7# ready to hunt. I always dreamed of this rifle in stainless and a few months ago one was advertised on GunBroker as one of only two made...it sold for $2650.00... Last is the "out of the box" gun. The original owner had Montana Rifle Company build a barreled action and then a local smith glass bedded it into a B&C stock. It has a 22" barrel and weighs 9# loaded with a 2.5-8 Leupold. 250s will run in the mid-2700s. I recently found a box of 280 Swift A-Frame bullets that I have not had a chance to load for yet. The original owner was from Alaska and said he was selling the gun only because he was building a custom .358 Norma Magnum and didn't need this one any more... For bullets in the two Remingtons...have not found anything better that the Speer 220 HotCore FP. Have only recovered one bullet from a black bear that broke the shoulder and punched a hole in the lungs but it was mushroomed perfectly. Bear dropped on the spot. With the flat tip is is very easy to load in short actions. 60 grains of Winchester 748 runs 2675 from a 22" barrel. [img]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Dennis%20Camp/MaineBearHunt2006031.jpg[/img]Have killed three deer with is bullet and it punches a hole right through with very little meat damage... ...just a great round that few understand....Bob
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Here is mine A quarter century years of hunting and still going strong. 225 Nosler Partition at 2650fps. Groovy.
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here are mine, both shoot well with the 220 gr. Speers
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The one I favor the most, a 673. Big hole in and out, everything dies.
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RJM: I was tempted by your Ruger when it was on gunbroker about as perfect a package you could get for a 350. I had feeding issues with my 77 as well. Trip back to Ruger and it is now the slickest feeding gun I own.
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I always wondered why no one bid on it...it was well under wholesale and a couple hundred dollars of custom work done...
Ruger apparently didn't check the feed reliability of this caliber/action interface before releasing the gun...
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