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Tonight's Skull Bound TV showing films of the wolves in Montana and their prey of bears, coyotes, mountain loin, deer and elk.

They showed pack of wolves in the snow surrounding small and large herds of bull elk on winter range and starving them out. Ripping off muzzles and hamstring bulls then moving off to wait until the helpless animal starves, bleeds and freezes down.

Please check out this show on the sportsmans channel if its on again before Sunday starts next weeks programming.

I thought wolves were saving the elk herds.

Brent will be along to explain that to us.

Well, that's what a liberal on here tried to convince us, anyway. I guess the bubonic plague kept a lot of folks from starving too.

How can a wolf bite through the spine of a big hound and make it two halves?

I have watched a pack of wolves (from too far away to do anything about it) surround a Moose cow and calf on the Alaska Penninsula south of King Salmon. Diving in and out and in and out until they exhausted then killed the calf, then they hamstrung the Moose cow and started eating her on the spot. It made me wish for a way to get across the many rivers and hills between us, but it was not possible. I lose no love on Wolves.

I have friends in the wolf relocation area in NM/AZ...

Their livestock losses are about to drive them out of business. They have to build secure cages for their kids to wait for the school bus in the morning because of a couple of hairy wolf encounters.



Phooking liberals.

Hunters, ranchers, and all outdoorsmen need to have a big gathering and pile the furballs up at the feet of the idiots wanting wolves.

I've seen humans do worse than that to animals & even other humans.

There are worse ways to go out.

Shoot, shovel, shut-up.

I guess the narrator has never seen the carnage a wolf can cause and all the blood in the snow from their kills. I think being eaten alive is a brutal way to go.

Jim

Saw that last night. Pretty well told it like it is. Then the 'host' gets an easy chance to hose a wolf, and misses the bastid!

I'm no no advocate of the wolf in terms of reintroduction.

But this is nature. This is how it's supposed to be. Wolves aren't bad. They're just doing what they evolved to do.

They can't be bad. Or evil. Or good for that matter. Those are human qualities that have no bearing on the reality of the animal world.

It may be sad to watch. But it's life.

Yep, their going to try to survive like anything else. They are big animals and it is going to take a lot to sustain them.

+1 ...important to keep things in perspective here. IMO we as hunters/humans have no right to judge a predators "ethics" in daily survival. Our laws and principles don't exist in their world and for good reason. "Killing for fun" is something that all 4 legged or 2 legged predators have available to them, perk of the job,good or bad.

Pretty standard in nature. Nothing more brutal than mother nature.

Yeah, i do too. That's why i request my tbone steak cooked well done.
The end of life is not easy for most species, the prey animals certainly are different than the predators.
These discussions remind me of opening day of dove season, and the carnage that results. I took a grandson a couple of years ago elk hunting, and warned him of what to expect. And told him i always had sadness after i looked at what i had done. Grandson said to me, gramma says you always say that, until she puts it in the cast iron skillet, that makes it all better. I suppose we all have to eat.
I think one of the things about wolfs is that they are very efficient at what they do. I often thing of elk/etc i see in the woods during/after hunting season with blown off legs, wounded but not yet dead, and so on, in that position because of sloppy ill trained hunters. And we call it sport.

There are places where wolves thrive and live that I don't have a problem with at all. That is adaptation to a changing world, and it seems the wolves do well there. As I said, I have no problem with them being there, doing what wolves do...

What I DO have a problem with is to "Reintroduce" wolves into areas that have people and a thriving ranching industry, thus creating the inevitable conflicts that insured the wolves were wiped out in those very areas a hundred or more years ago....Mostly because it gives a liberal a warm, fuzzy feeling knowing their beloved pets are running wild.

The reintroduction programs are a complete failure, and the wolves have to be fed continually because they starve to death there. The people and ranchers are not protected in any fashion and are jailed if they shoot a wolf.

USFWS is full of liberal tree huggers that are continually lying about the science and the facts.

There is no reason that civilized areas of our country ought to have wolves crammed down our throats, or have to watch history repeat itself because of the conflicts that introducing wolves creates.

As far as the areas of reintroduction go, if I had the LAST wolf alive in my sights, and knew it was the last one, I would pull the trigger on him without hesitation.

How is this for perspective, maybe if they were your kids?

Well said. My future FIL is one of those guys that blasts the woods during gun season here in Ohio and from talking with him he rarely gets a deer with one clean shot. Super nice guy but just doesn't "get it". But there are those of us that would rather vilify the methods of survival for predators instead.

Are you seriously saying wolves are bad because of they way they kill? Really?