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I'd like to have a $350 6.5 Creedmoor too, where do I sign the wait list?
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Not if you rebarrel with a heavier/longer barrel!
Exactly like the Remington 7s with 18.5" and 20" barrels.
That said, some people are more sensitive, or maybe "in tune", to their firearms' balance than others and for those who aren't cognizant, balance may not even be a component of the package that they recognize or consider.
I've long felt that the long action 77 RSIs balance noticeably better than their short action brothers, while others see no recognizable difference.
Jeff Why would I rebarrel for balance when I could just buy a standard contour rifle off the shelf, and never have the issue to begin with? Also, it's not a matter of being sensitive to balance. It's how well the rifle will hang offhand, which is to say really poorly with a heavy actioned, wood stocked, short pencil thin barreled rifle.
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Because you like the black tip on the 77 RL stock?
I do and have bought 77 RL stocks to replace perfectly good 77 R stocks. Have also bought 77 RSI stocks in which to install 77 R or Hawkeye barreled actions. This is how I got my 77 RSI 6.5x55 parts gun.
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Why did he let them drop the ultralites then? Because they balanced like schit. Mid-point of the mag box/floorplate seems to suit me....
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Because you like the black tip on the 77 RL stock?
I do and have bought 77 RL stocks to replace perfectly good 77 R stocks. Have also bought 77 RSI stocks in which to install 77 R or Hawkeye barreled actions. This is how I got my 77 RSI 6.5x55 parts gun.
Jeff Understandable. The stock replacement idea sounds like the best route to go. I've thought about a "Faux RSI". Why did he let them drop the ultralites then? Because they balanced like schit. Mid-point of the mag box/floorplate seems to suit me.... I'm more a front action screw to front face of action balance point kinda guy.
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Guess I'm a snob,don't want one or even be seen with one in my hands. Yes, you are a snob. You're also not their target market. The American is for the younger or first time hunter, and its also for someone who needs a utilitarian rifle. Ruger probably could care less about your opinion of the American.
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Guess I'm a snob,don't want one or even be seen with one in my hands. Yes, you are a snob. You're also not their target market. The American is for the younger or first time hunter, and its also for someone who needs a utilitarian rifle. Ruger probably could care less about your opinion of the American. Bingo. Someone finally got it.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Guess I'm a snob,don't want one or even be seen with one in my hands. Yes, you are a snob. You're also not their target market. The American is for the younger or first time hunter, and its also for someone who needs a utilitarian rifle. Ruger probably could care less about your opinion of the American. Bingo. Someone finally got it. Know one ever claimed they were aimed for the Bobsnobs!!! LOL!!! I have know problem killing schitt with a utilitarian grade rifle
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Guess I'm a snob,don't want one or even be seen with one in my hands. Yes, you are a snob. You're also not their target market. The American is for the younger or first time hunter, and its also for someone who needs a utilitarian rifle. Ruger probably could care less about your opinion of the American. Bingo. Someone finally got it. Know one ever claimed they were aimed for the Bobsnobs!!! LOL!!! I have know problem killing schitt with a utilitarian grade rifle I bet you don't...for sure, you are their target market...along with the kids. But you do have problems saying anything intelligent;or structuring a sentence.And your grammar is terrible.... That's always been apparent. Do you kill a lot of schitt? LOL! I bet that's all you "kill"....with anything.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Guess I'm a snob,don't want one or even be seen with one in my hands. Yes, you are a snob. You're also not their target market. The American is for the younger or first time hunter, and its also for someone who needs a utilitarian rifle. Ruger probably could care less about your opinion of the American. The Marlin XL7 received a similiar reaction from the shooting public, but after checking the rifle over and witnessed how they shot, many of us purchased some to get our young shooters a rifle that was reliable, accurate and not a hand-me-down. My son and I bought a bunch standard and youth rifles for $259.00 plus tax. I saved the ad because some did not believe the deal.
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I now have the Ruger American home. Apparently, I got the last 308 they had in the store. Now, rather than just messing with my buddy's rifle, I can tinker with this one.
I haven't put the scope on yet, but will be after posting this. I'll take off the mounts, clean the threads up and reinstall them. I've got Burris low mount rings that should work with the Weaver.
I took it out of the box when it arrived home and gauged the trigger. It broke at 4 lb and was crisp. After the rifle's been cleaned up and shot, I test it again. If it stays the same, I'll be happy. No need to mess with this one.
Converted to Americanische dinars, this rifle, complete with Burris rings and a Weaver 4x38mm scope, comes in a $556. Based on what I know of my friend's Americans, this will be a fun, knock around rifle. If it's accurate - 1.5 inches ou moins @100 yd, it will be fine. It has to shoot my homemade 200 grain bullets to earn a spot on the bench however. That's my litmus test.
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Contrarian that I am, I wish that they would offer them with iron sights and in some "odd" chamberings. Outside of the 94 Winchester, I never have shot centerfire bolt rifles with iron sights (that made it sound like I was calling the 94 a bolt rifle, but I'll trust everyone to know what I am trying to say) and would like the chance to do so at a reasonable cost. Likewise, I would appreciate the opportunity to mess around with some "odd" chamberings in a bolt rifle at a reasonable price. I realize that neither of these desires place me in a category at which the Americans are aimed.
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I know what you're saying, but very, very few people use them nowadaze, so most companies don't bother. Even if they still did, the OEM iron sights are usually sheit. Good ones - hunting or target - are a specialty item like scopes.
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I really want to see the American in .204 Ruger. I don't know how realistic that is though.
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I'm pretty sure you'll be seeing the American in other chamberings, but right now they're apparently selling all they can make. I also wouldn't be surprised to see an iron-sighted big game model, since the .22's have irons.
One of the things I'm happy about is the faster twists in some chamberings, especially the 1-8 .223. The 1-9 in .243 isn't bad either, though the long-range boys won't be totally happy, I doubt many of them are buying Americans anyway.
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I'd say its possible. The cartridge does carry the Ruger name. I can see them marketing a predator combo with the two.
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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John,
Before the announcement of the American, I remember the questionnaire on their website. They asked about features and you were to rate them between 1 and 10. They did have a question pertaining to iron sights.
Sights would work with the height of the comb as well. Maybe in the future?
I'm excited about the new twists as well. I do like the fact that Ruger listens and even publishes questionnaires on their website. They continue to try to give the shooting public what they ask for.
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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Contrarian that I am, I wish that they would offer them with iron sights and in some "odd" chamberings. Outside of the 94 Winchester, I never have shot centerfire bolt rifles with iron sights (that made it sound like I was calling the 94 a bolt rifle, but I'll trust everyone to know what I am trying to say) and would like the chance to do so at a reasonable cost. Likewise, I would appreciate the opportunity to mess around with some "odd" chamberings in a bolt rifle at a reasonable price. I realize that neither of these desires place me in a category at which the Americans are aimed. You leaned the same way I did, and we agree 100%. I guess we can't ask that the "American" be chambered in the European 9,3X62, but they could be a frontrunner in 9,3MM rifles if they brought to market a short action 9,3mmBS. JB already has loads worked out. Remington could neck up some 350 RM brass, and we're out the door with a new moose/elk cheap rifle!! I want a 22-250, never owned one, and now think I might have found what I need in the American.
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smoker,
I'd like to see iron sights, also, but they seem to add too much to the cost of a price-point rifle.
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smoker,
I'd like to see iron sights, also, but they seem to add too much to the cost of a price-point rifle. I'd like to see a factory rifle come with a freakin' rear peep. Savage is the only company doing this. They started on their Cub that morphed into the Rascal so I know at least some people understand the benefits. The Ruger Takedown with a simple Williams rear peep would have been bad-[bleep]'-ass. Travis
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