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How does Conneticut know that these people did not register their magazines? Scary.
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They just keep pushing. Gun confiscations is one step closer in Connecticut.� The mainstream media spins it as �one more chance� for non-compliant gun owners who failed to register their scary guns before the January 1 deadline. In reality, these letters -�106 to rifle owners, and 108 more to residents with standard capacity magazines � are the first step in the Connecticut State Police beginning to round up guns arbitrarily made illegal last year in that state.� These guns include America�s favorite rifle, the AR-15 and magazines over 10 rounds, which include the standard capacity magazines made for that America�s favorite rifle. Failure to register is now a felony now in Connecticut. How long will it be before there is bloodshed over this law?� We�re not sure, but we�re confident it is coming unless the law is rescinded or struck down by the courts. Mike Vanderboegh of the edgy Sipsey Street Irregulars released an open letter a couple of weeks ago, warning of what�s coming to Connecticut.� The Connecticut State Police aren�t listening.� Yet. We suspect attitudes may change after the first few rounds of bloodshed. As it stands right now, the best estimates are that 4% of newly-regulated guns and magazines in The Nutmeg State have been registered, leaving a hundred thousand or more newly classified potential felons looking over their shoulder. link. (The link is hit and miss, keep trying) We have people like Isaac on here saying that Universal Registration is something we can compromise on. Then we have this. In 1968 the Gun Control Act was passed but gun owners were told that the 4472's that were to be generated by it were never going to be used for registration, let alone confiscation. Unless Connecticut has some state paperwork, then the 4472's are exactly what are to be used for confiscation. They DO. It's called DP-3 and is filled out evey time a firearm is purchased in CT. One copy goes to the state police, another goes to the chief law enforcement in the buyers community. That has been CT law for many years. That's too bad. It looks like it is a blueprint for everybody that thinks registration by banning private sales with no paperwork DOESN'T have consequences.
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Don't worry, the police will not confiscate their guns, they believe in the second amendment too. Lots of them will even stand up for the citizens... Don't believe it for a minute. When you put their badge and gun on the desk and walk away from their fatcat paychecks and bennys, then you can believ they stand with the subjects of Conn. new Yorkistan is the same way. Until they stand with us as subjects instead of against us as overlords, they are NOT to be trusted.
I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.
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The police will follow orders. Period.
Maybe not all of them, but those that don't will not defend you against the ones that will follow unlawful orders.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Don't worry, the police will not confiscate their guns, they believe in the second amendment too. Lots of them will even stand up for the citizens... Bwahahahaha! 
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![[Linked Image]](http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/6mm250/CSP1.jpg) ^ WTF is that THING holding the rifle ? ^ Mike That's the sort of thing that will be issuing the orders to send the SWAT to your home to confiscate the property you purchased with your hard earned dollars, and in the process shoot your dogs.
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Folks who think that the Cops won't actively enforce this have rocks in their head. First off, in Connecticut most of the Cops will believe these measures to be perfectly reasonable as will a majority of the population.
Faced with legal/punitive action, MOST owners will cave. They might swear to move out of state but they will still give in. Even setting family considerations aside, would it be worth it to many to lose all they have over a few 20 round mags or to 'fessing up what the State already knows: that they bought one of these rifles in Connecticut at some point.
Even for holdouts with "secret" rifles and mags, where would they shoot them? And if they instead hoard them in some discrete location, the State has only to wait. Sooner or later family members or next of kin, appalled at the risk they run, will dispose of them or turn them over.
Laws quickly become social norms. Seen it in England (where all my Brit relatives think even I am a fringe Redneck loony), seen it in New York State.
JMHO,
Birdwatcher0
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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^ WTF is that THING holding the rifle ? ^ Mike That's the sort of thing that will be issuing the orders to send the SWAT to your home to confiscate the property you purchased with your hard earned dollars, and in the process to shoot your dogs. Or your wife and son if you are like our friend Randy Weaver.
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It seems like there is more interest in Doc's non-vacation and whether TAK is "real" than there is in this threat. Make no mistake, this one state threat is a threat to all gun owners, just like Connecticut threatening one citizen of their state is a threat to all their citizens. This is real-time. Yep, I'm a pimple-face hologram in my mom's basement. I never existed. A lot of the "respected" members here would rather gang up on somebody and flame the [bleep] out of them than they would read about fo-real threats to their very existence and attempts to formulate realistic, non-violent responses. The later the hour of the day and the emptier the bottle, whether it be pill bottle or adult beverage, the worse it gets on that score. The wolf is at the door. Well said.
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Place the blame with democrats. If you can't, thats because you are one. The only Republicans who aren't in lock step with 99% of the Democrat agenda are the small minority associated with The Tea Party, i.e., those the Republican establishment is attempting to crush.
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Same old, same old......likely why many haven't bothered to respond.
Are some cops going to go along with a confiscation order...yep. Are some citizens going to meekly comply....yep. Folks is folks as a member here is fond of saying. Some will follow blindly, some will sit on the sidelines and watch (and biotch), while others stand.
Only "you" know, or think you know, the cops in your area. If they're of the "go along" type you only have yourselves in that AO to blame. I know where my guys stand. I trust all but one to do the right thing.
George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Don't jump to conclusions and don't come off as arrogant as this crap will spread like cancer. You all NEED to come to terms with what you will have to do when faced with similar stupidity and NONE of you are immune to this crap. Just a matter of time. The enemy advances a thousand attacks. We CANNOT actively defend against each one as that would exhaust our resources (the primary reason for so many attacks). Instead of panning them or telling them to run away, try giving active support to Conneticut gun owners. Battles need to be fought where they surface and this is the opening guns.
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Illegal aliens cannot own a firearm in Connecticut.
Are there any illegal aliens in Connecticut?
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It looks like it is a blueprint for everybody that thinks registration by banning private sales with no paperwork DOESN'T have consequences. Like Bob/Isaac, the good friend of all gun owning Americans? 
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Don't worry, the police will not confiscate their guns, they believe in the second amendment too. Lots of them will even stand up for the citizens... Don't believe it for a minute. When you put their badge and gun on the desk and walk away from their fatcat paychecks and bennys, then you can believ they stand with the subjects of Conn. new Yorkistan is the same way. Until they stand with us as subjects instead of against us as overlords, they are NOT to be trusted. +1, but I assumed he was being sarcastic.
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The police will follow orders. Period.
Maybe not all of them, but those that don't will not defend you against the ones that will follow unlawful orders. This.
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Instead of panning them or telling them to run away, try giving active support to Conneticut gun owners. Battles need to be fought where they surface and this is the opening guns. What must be done to get the state to RED status? Good luck with that.
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For most Cops the orders wont be "unlawful" but perfectly "reasonable".
We ain't talking "take all your guns" here, just register some kinds and their hi-cap mags. This is how these things are done, by increments.
Almost nobody will be willing to lose all by violent resistance over a few guns and mags that the State knows you own anyway, and those few if any that do will likely be so far outside the norm that it would be easy for the MSM to portray them as deranged kooks, their probable gun collection laid out for the cameras after the fact.
And any LEO's killed or injured would only stir up further outrage against "radical" gun owners.
Passive, non-violent non-compliance and political action are the only realistic paths to follow as has worked so far in Canada.
Birdwatcher
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Let's get a couple things straight here. First, it's a Form 4473.
Second - as to these 'confiscation' letters. IIRC many of us here warned those who live in CT that this 'registration' of magazine etc., WOULD lead to confiscation and we were roundly poo-pooed for the statements.
Them damn birds are comin' home to roost now, ain't they?
People NEVER learn it appears.. It also appears that the only thing now that might save your collective azzes is if every single citizen in CT that owns these firearms and/or magazines group up and, in ONE BUBBLING MASS OF OUTRAGED CITIZENRY, march right up and into the CT gov't offices and demand the ouster of every single a-hole that voted FOR that stupid-azzed law - especially including the Governor who signed it.
Because, if you don't, the next thing people will see is gov't troops pounding on your door demanding you to surrender and face charges. Now ya gotta make a decision - "whatcha gonna do when they come for youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?"
The comments listed under the article in the link are EXACTLY what needs to be said - right to the faces of the damn Dems AND the idiot Governor of CT.. It's the damn Dems that started this chit, and the damn Dems need to PAY for it - one way or the other..
Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69
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LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
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Place the blame with democrats. If you can't, thats because you are one. The only Republicans who aren't in lock step with 99% of the Democrat agenda are the small minority associated with The Tea Party, i.e., those the Republican establishment is attempting to crush. Really? Of the 46 US Senators that voted for the UN Arms Treaty how many were Republicans? Of the 53 that opposed the Treaty how many were Democrats? How many Republicans voted "yes" for Obama care, both House and senate?
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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