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Going cross-eyed looking at the things. Anything around $100 worth a schit? Decent R value? Been using a RidgeRest and thought I may switch.
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Find a Thermarest Neoair on sale.
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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New models come out every year. You can usually pick up a gently used pad for around $100.
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I can't get rid of my Big Agnes. It just won't fail. Keep thinking of the Neoair but I like schitt I can count on so I haven't switched. Not yet anyway..
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I love my big agnes insulated and under 100. I am going to pick up a klymit next month, also under 100. I love the big agnes way better than my ridge rest, thick, comfy and quiet.
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My Neoair failed on my last outing. Haven't tried to find the leak, yet.
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Inflatable pads FAIL at the least-appropriate moment. See above.
Closed-cell foam reflects heat best and is indestructible unless you burn it in a fire.
Disclaimer: you must be capable of handling approximately 6 oz more weight in your pack to handle a closed-cell foam pad over an inflatable. Some on this "Backpack Hunting" forum are not capable.
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Were two large Neoairs, one original and one all season for sale on backpacking light for $100/each last night. I've got a large xtherm I used one night I'll sell you for $185.
It would seem someone would "weld" an air pad and closed cell together.
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I had no problem getting my big Agnes pad to fail. I guess I was lucky. Get a small prolite torso and couple it with your Ridgrest
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I had no problem getting my big Agnes pad to fail. I guess I was lucky. Get a small prolite torso and couple it with your Ridgrest The XS Prolite weighs 8oz and you can find evazote pads that are a lot lighter than a Ridgerest.
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I like my Big Agnes and Thermarest NeoAir but in my opinion they all leak and all fail eventually.
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Those neo air pads sure are loud.
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I had no problem getting my big Agnes pad to fail. I guess I was lucky. Get a small prolite torso and couple it with your Ridgrest The XS Prolite weighs 8oz and you can find evazote pads that are a lot lighter than a Ridgerest. That is what I usually use a light Eva pad coupled with the pro lite
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Prolite has discontinued sales of Evazote... just a head's up.
I carry a 1/4" Evazote pad with a Neoair.
But the original question wasn't about what we use, was about what inflatable to get...
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I had no problem getting my big Agnes pad to fail. I guess I was lucky. Get a small prolite torso and couple it with your Ridgrest I've got a prolite that I picked up for a song and have done that before. Was thinking a bigger inflatable would kill 2 birds with one stone. One thing for sure is the ridge rest doubled over makes for a nice seat for a tired ass. I sleep on my side and end up with pretty sore hips. Thought about ditching it all and trying a hammock, but that's a whole different ball game.
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If you're talking bigger as in thicker and more comfortable, look at an Exped. They're more than $100 though.
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One irritation to me is the lack of width unless you get a "large" with most of these packs. I'd rather have 48" or so with a 24" width. The only way to get the 24" is with a 77" length. That ^Klymit above^ looks pretty good for the money. Here it is for $50 http://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Static...&sr=1-1&keywords=klymit+static+v
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I really like my Xtherm.
I find that I have to deflate it to be comfy - so it can conform to me more.
I had it on an overnight once and discovered the next morning that I had under-inflated it too much. I thought it had leaked because it was about only 1/3 inflated but it still kept me super warm that night on compacted snow that turned into a slippery sheet of ice under me (only went down to 19�F though).
The reflective stuff in there works extremely well. It is directional, however. I discovered that on another night that only went down to about 28�F. I had set up in the dark and put the bottom side up and friggin' froze - didn't figure it out until the next morning.
I think that if an Xtherm were to go flat that one could still stuff brush, your pack, jacket, etc. under you and it will still get your through the night in a pinch. I've been meaning to test it out - should even try to use it very lightly inflated in a double bottom hammock.
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I think that is the un insulated model Snubbie.
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