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Has anyone seen one yet? If so, how does the barrel address read?
I decided to grab another US made 70 yesterday and now have another stainless/walnut-this one in an 06. Fit, finish, and function with this new rifle is excellent, and I am thinking I may pick-up a few more before the foreign invasion takes over all of the shelves. CP.
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We used to have domestically produced rifles in this country. If there were any still made here I would be all over them, but the economic realities hit our shores a long time ago and production ceased except for all but a few minor niche products that come and go.
What happens in the US is none of my business but I can understand the lament when an iconic local product becomes foreign-ised.
The question whether you are in Australia or the US for me anyway is; "Is this the market speaking, or the manufacturers speaking for us?"
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Don't think there will be any difference. Winchester parts have been outsourced for some time now. Would be surprised at the few parts that are made in the US, only assembled in South Carolina.
Remember Brownings made in Belgium, assembled in Portugal?
This is nothing new for Browning/Winchester.
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Don't think there will be any difference... You might think differently when we are prohibited from importing firearms.
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Good point. Moving Winchester overseas may just have been a Godsend after all.
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With that move we lost jobs for experienced gun makers. Sure seems like part of this administration's agenda.
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I am wondering if Winchester decided hold off on moving assembly to Portugal. I have noticed that while they said that they were on their Facebook page about three months ago they have changed their position and noted on their webpage that the Model 70s are entirely produced in the USA.
It gets me to wonder if that FNH or Browning is smarter when it comes to changes in production than they were in 1964. They know that they have a good product in the flow and don't want to muck up what is going on.
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I also have not seen any of the Portuguese 70s, but have noticed a surge in the number of "made in USA" 70s in the local stores of late. I assumed that the distributors and retailers were pushing all the remaining domestic rifles out to the market in advance of bring on the Portuguese rifles. I hope you are right and I my assumption is incorrect. CP.
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And here it is 2014 and Model 70's are still being produced here. Funny how one rumor just keeps getting circulated as truth without anyone actually checking to see if it's true.
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Good point. Moving Winchester overseas may just have been a Godsend after all. ?
With that move we lost jobs for experienced gun makers. Sure seems like part of this administration's agenda. I think he means that if they're banned from our shores, maybe we'll start making them at home again.
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I think that Scott means that since Winchesters suck, having the production moved to Portugal and subsequently being banned from importation is a benefit to all hunters/shooters.
Of course, I could be wrong.
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I heard they will be assembled in Portugal with the final quality control - like range work, done in Ukraine.
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We used to have domestically produced rifles in this country. If there were any still made here I would be all over them, but the economic realities hit our shores a long time ago and production ceased except for all but a few minor niche products that come and go.
What happens in the US is none of my business but I can understand the lament when an iconic local product becomes foreign-ised.
The question whether you are in Australia or the US for me anyway is; "Is this the market speaking, or the manufacturers speaking for us?" My questions are "Is the quality there?" And "Is the value there?" If the end result is Winchester delivering a superior product assembled in Portugal, I have no problem.
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I think the real question is: are they being produced ANYWHERE anymore?
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I haven't seen a new one for sale in months locally.
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I would still like to know if they are being made in the US or over seas
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My completely speculative guess is production has been shut down stateside, and they are in the process of tooling up in Portugal.
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It was my understanding that the parts would be made in the US but assembled in Portugal.
Not sure how that makes sense - make parts here, ship them to Portugal, assemble them into rifles, then ship the rifles back here - but that was the last I read on this.
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It was my understanding that the parts would be made in the US but assembled in Portugal.
Not sure how that makes sense - make parts here, ship them to Portugal, assemble them into rifles, then ship the rifles back here... Then (we'll expect)you can't ship them back here because of new regulations banning the importation of firearms.
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