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Travis did not know how old you were.. It's Victoria Principal...star of the original TV show, "Dallas". She sure looks different today.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
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I didn't know either.
If she's that old, 'flave can have her.
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Travis,
Damn, you're right, the .204 hasn't been accepted by the AKC--and apparently neither has the Ruger American! Though that doesn't mean those dogs won't hunt....
Just ordered an "All-Weather" (stainless) Ruger American in .243. Thinking it might just put 10 into an inch or so at 100. That would kill a bunch of PD's at 300, and maybe even a deer!
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SLM: Don't think either of you would want her now. But you woulda.....then.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Two years ago after comfirming my 180gr Partition load for the pre '64 30-06, I loaded two boxes. The Fwt. was in a McMillan Edge and zeroed for 200yards. I brought it to range four times while playing with other stuff. I shot one shot from a cold barrel off my backpack, prone at 200 yards. All four single shots were almost dead center on my 5x5 inch target. The first hunting season ended with a 235 yard downyhill shot at a cow and last years raghorn was at 75 yards. All I need to do hereafter is to confirm the Leupie 6x36 with a shot or two and I'm all done.
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SLM: Don't think either of you would want her now. But you woulda.....then. She was one of the hottest babes on the tube in her prime. Thank God they always had a pool at the ranch........wow..
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SLM: Don't think either of you would want her now. But you woulda.....then. Yep. Just found a bunch of nude pics of her. Then.....nice
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Ultimately, it really boils down to the 90% between the ears. That's all that counts.
Back in the 70s Robert Kleinguenther imported Voere Titan II barreled actions and built custom rifles out of Seguin Texas. He guaranteed 1/2" accuracy with standard cartridges and 1" with magnums. IMO any custom rifle that shoots worse than that is nothing but a POS- no excuse for anything worse today.
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Travis,
Damn, you're right, the .204 hasn't been accepted by the AKC--and apparently neither has the Ruger American! Though that doesn't mean those dogs won't hunt....
Just ordered an "All-Weather" (stainless) Ruger American in .243. Thinking it might just put 10 into an inch or so at 100. That would kill a bunch of PD's at 300, and maybe even a deer! The Ruger American I can see gaining a very quick acceptance. But that .204 is going to die a lingering horrible death. I'd appreciate it if you could stop writing about it. Thanks, Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Travis did not know how old you were.. It's Victoria Principal...star of the original TV show, "Dallas". She sure looks different today. Dallas? I remember my parents talking about that show when I wasn't born yet. Good to know. Thanks Bob. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I didn't know either.
If she's that old, 'flave can have her. She's gonna love me. I can quote all the silent films. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Two years ago after comfirming my 180gr Partition load for the pre '64 30-06, I loaded two boxes. The Fwt. was in a McMillan Edge and zeroed for 200yards. I brought it to range four times while playing with other stuff. I shot one shot from a cold barrel off my backpack, prone at 200 yards. All four single shots were almost dead center on my 5x5 inch target. The first hunting season ended with a 235 yard downyhill shot at a cow and last years raghorn was at 75 yards. All I need to do hereafter is to confirm the Leupie 6x36 with a shot or two and I'm all done. How can you stand shooting that little? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Col. Townsend Whelen said, "Only accurate rifles are interesting." Ok, setting aside any debate as to whether or not what he said is actually true, what was acceptable hunting rifle accuracy when he wrote it? What is acceptable hunting rifle accuracy today? I know that everyone talks about rifles that shoot little cloverleaves at 100 yards; but is that really necessary when shooting at deer-size game within common hunting ranges? Say 200 yards or less?
My guess is that while many rifles today are sub-moa, even untweaked from the factory, the average hunter probably isn't. So practically speaking, what is acceptable hunting rifle accuracy?
I'm posting this here as I hope some of the professional gunscribes will chime in as well. Townsend Whelen was a big proponent of the ladder test to find the right node. That is typically the difference between an ok shooting rifle and a sub-moa.
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Travis,
Trade ya: I won't write about the .204 if you quit running down the .17 Fireball. Just because some .17 isn't as "big" as your favorite doesn't mean it's not OK.
Or do you have to use the biggest .17 around to compensate for, uh, "other things"? That seems to be a pretty dinky method, though no doubt better than shooting a .270.
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Travis, I have plenty of others to shoot. Instead of dwelling on 3 shot and 5 shot groups, I decided on one with a cold barrel - just like how I want my hunt to go - one shot.
If anyone wants to really test their shooting, do a little fast walking or jog around the range facility. Then see how those groups look. A little real world hunt scenario is helpful.
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Townsend Whelen was a big proponent of the ladder test to find the right node. That is typically the difference between an ok shooting rifle and a sub-moa.
I read a book by Mr. Whelen. Can't remember the name but it was really good. Can't recall his writing about ladders. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Travis,
Trade ya: I won't write about the .204 if you quit running down the .17 Fireball. Just because some .17 isn't as "big" as your favorite doesn't mean it's not OK.
Or do you have to use the biggest .17 around to compensate for, uh, "other things"? That seems to be a pretty dinky method, though no doubt better than shooting a .270. It is hard to not love the .17 Rem. It's everything the Fireball will never be. No need to compensate for other things because I have no regard for anybody that would gain pleasure from those other things. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Travis, I have plenty of others to shoot. Instead of dwelling on 3 shot and 5 shot groups, I decided on one with a cold barrel - just like how I want my hunt to go - one shot.
If anyone wants to really test their shooting, do a little fast walking or jog around the range facility. Then see how those groups look. A little real world hunt scenario is helpful. I don't know anything about yogging or walking. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Townsend Whelen was a big proponent of the ladder test to find the right node. That is typically the difference between an ok shooting rifle and a sub-moa.
I read a book by Mr. Whelen. Can't remember the name but it was really good. Can't recall his writing about ladders. Travis That would make him an idiot if he didn't do a ladder test.
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