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Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy scenarshooter #8701344 03/21/14
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,277 Likes: 13 W. Texas J JGRaider Campfire Ranger
JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,277 Likes: 13 W. Texas	Yeah right scenar....WTH do you know? It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

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Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy jwall #8701543 03/21/14
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,669 Likes: 42 Bozeman, MT S shrapnel Campfire Ranger
shrapnel Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,669 Likes: 42 Bozeman, MT	Originally Posted by jwall Originally Posted by BC30cal ,,,, an article by I believe Mike Venturino suggested more or less that only the first two shots from a cold, clean hunting rifle barrel were meaningful. Dwayne Well I'll confess to being a black sheep 'here'. It was statements like that led me to quit reading Mikey V. I NEVER, repeat NEVER take a rifle hunting with a 'CLEAN' barrel. By that I mean it has to be shot at least TWICE to powder foul the bll. for the POI (zero) to be correct. I can give MANY examples of myself or friends checking for zero AFTER cleaning the barrel and the first and sometimes second shot being OFF. Sometimes it's a matter of 1" or so, sometimes noticeably more. It's also NOT consistently hi, low, right, or left. You have to shoot it ON a clean bore to find out where it is. Then slowly shoot 2-3 more and see IF you're back to zero +. Now, I totally agree that the MOST important thing is the FIRST and second shot being "on" with a cold barrel. This is my mileage>>>>YMMV. Have you ever wondered why no one asks for your help?

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy shrapnel #8701652 03/21/14
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas J jwall Campfire Ranger
jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas	Originally Posted by shrapnel Have you ever wondered why no one asks for your help? Obviously your mileage varies. I proved that to myself several times before becoming convinced. I showed it to many shooting friends AS they shot their own rifles on a CLEAN barrel. If I insulted a friend, that wasn't my intention but what I said is true. jwall- * 3100 guy* A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy jwall #8701709 03/21/14
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1tnhunter Campfire Regular 1 Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,214 Tennessee	I've only owned 4 rifles,they've all shot the same whether it's the 1st shot or the 50th. I guess my mileage varied too.

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy 1tnhunter #8701891 03/21/14
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida	Do you guys really clean barrels or are you just being silly-nillys? Travis Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

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Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy deflave #8701929 03/21/14
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s... J JSTUART Campfire Ranger
JSTUART Campfire Ranger J Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s...	Originally Posted by deflave Do you guys really clean barrels or are you just being silly-nillys? Travis Maw, Maw, 'flave is calling names again! These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy JSTUART #8701931 03/21/14
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,877 Likes: 1 C CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter
CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter C Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,877 Likes: 1	Jeez, somebody kill this thing. Where is Rick when you need him?

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy deflave #8702384 03/21/14
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,289 I'm in Kalifornia fish head Campfire Ranger
fish head Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 17,289 I'm in Kalifornia	Originally Posted by deflave Do you guys really clean barrels or are you just being silly-nillys? Travis Depends on if I'm shooting groups or trying to hit things.

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy fish head #8702700 03/21/14
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,204 Likes: 19 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,204 Likes: 19 In the Swamps	Down this way things trend wet more often than not. Probably more barrels ruined down here from failure to clean than you can shake a stick at. Cold bore clean is a good reference for starters...in this AO. Sometimes the right bullets will keep you from screwing up. Or worse. Get with the program dammmit! I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy CrowRifle #8702948 03/21/14
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida	Originally Posted by CrowRifle Jeez, somebody kill this thing. Where is Rick when you need him? I told him to tend to the McMillan orders while I make sure the website isn't gay. Travis Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

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Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy DigitalDan #8702951 03/21/14
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida	Nice screwdrivers BD! Travis Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy deflave #8702974 03/21/14
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,204 Likes: 19 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,204 Likes: 19 In the Swamps	Always here to help. I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy DigitalDan #8702981 03/21/14
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida	I plan to visit FL in August. Perhaps you could be available so mini-flave can shake your hand and steal what you are not watching. It would mean a lot to he and I both. Travis Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy deflave #8703333 03/22/14
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,204 Likes: 19 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,204 Likes: 19 In the Swamps	That would be good. I'm faster than Doc Holiday. Love, BD I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy DigitalDan #8703384 03/22/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	FL is miserable in August. Unless you can steal good schitt�. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy deflave #8703426 03/22/14
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,963 Likes: 24 Hi-Line SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana
SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,963 Likes: 24 Hi-Line	Originally Posted by deflave Do you guys really clean barrels or are you just being silly-nillys? Travis Wasting time cleaning a 'dirty' barrel ranks right up there with washing the pickup. I guess maybe every 400-500 rounds maybe clean it just to see how dirty it is? Or not. Last edited by SamOlson; 03/22/14.

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy SamOlson #8703429 03/22/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	I do it every May, whether it needs it or not... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy ingwe #8703436 03/22/14
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,963 Likes: 24 Hi-Line SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana
SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,963 Likes: 24 Hi-Line	I was thinking August.... If a guy was really bored. Wife's car is a little different, I tell her to wash that thing at least twice a month...grin

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy SamOlson #8703443 03/22/14
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	She probably washes it before she takes it to the car wash... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Hunting Rifle Accuracy ingwe #8703447 03/22/14
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,963 Likes: 24 Hi-Line SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana
SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,963 Likes: 24 Hi-Line	It's spotless!

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